You're right, the JW's and communism have very much in common in how they treat and control people.
yaddayadda
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My act of disobedience at the DC (pathetic, but thrillingly satisfying)
by CaptainSchmideo insaturday, i am with my son, my sister-in-law, and my 2 1/2 year old nephew, trying to walk out of the arena to return my lunch cooler to the car.
the exit we use is a "one way only, no re-entry permitted gate.
ok, i'm fine with that, i just want to leave the building through this corridor, not re-enter the same way.
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Name one thing the JW's would like to see changed in their religion?
by JH inlets say the jw's were allowed to write down on a piece of paper, without anyone knowing who wrote what, one thing that they would like changed in their religion, what do you think most jw's would want changed?
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yaddayadda
Most would write either dump some of the meetings or dump having to report field service time.
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"There's nothing else out there"
by yaddayadda ina friend of mine is returning to the meetings.
his reason is "there's nothing else out there" (meaning out in the world).
if i had a dollar for every time i've heard a jw say this.
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yaddayadda
You are right choosing life. There are many JW's who would love to give it up but there is just too much to lose socially and emotionally. All their friends and family are in it and the pressure they exert is tremendous.
My friend is not interested at all in the doctrinal stuff. He goes purely for the social connections. But he knows he is wasting his time trying to find a marriage mate in our area. He often gets left out of social events and marriageable sisters hardly give him the time of day. So deep down he resents it all and would like to be free to find a woman in the world. So he gets depressed and turns to me for sympathy when his social life goes on a downer in the congregation and dumps on me emotionally. But after a few weeks he crawls back to the organisation and gets all 'witnessey' again and even tries to get me to come back to the meetings also. It's quite pathetic.
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"There's nothing else out there"
by yaddayadda ina friend of mine is returning to the meetings.
his reason is "there's nothing else out there" (meaning out in the world).
if i had a dollar for every time i've heard a jw say this.
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yaddayadda
A friend of mine is returning to the meetings. His reason is "there's nothing else out there" (meaning out in the world). If I had a dollar for every time I've heard a JW say this. Its like a little buzzphrase they use to help convince each other why they should stay. Makes me sick.
My friend is a boomerang JW. Every now and then he decides he has had enough of being a witness and stops attending all meetings for while but before too long he reverts back to JW mode and crawls back. He must have done this about a dozen times. I have lost a lot of respect for him because of his constant vacillating and I know that no one in the congregation respects him.
It really annoys the shit out of me. The JW fantasy world is nothing but a security blanket for many people without the emotional strength or social skills to leave. Unfortunately my friend is definitely of that type. All the years of brainwashing that the end of the world is around the corner has meant he has lived for the moment and failed to plan properly for the future and develop the capabilities needed to make it long term as a normal person living in the world.
I'm convinced he is psychologically incapable of ever leaving the JWs.
Everything else is out there. The whole world is out there with billions of normal people living normal lives who are no different to you or I.
What is there to be found in the JW world?: Just a lot of self-righteous, judgmental people who sit on their bums in a hall 3 times a week and listen to a lot of hot air. The truth is "there is nothing IN there" (the organisation)
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Convention look boring
by kwr ini was able to watch some of the convention for 2007 on youtube and they look boring.
do they just have three days of different programs or do they just repeat the same program friday, sat & sun?.
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yaddayadda
50% of the content of the assemblies these days seems to be just experiences and demonstrations.
"Look at me, I'm so righteous...I turned down a big promotion and got blessed by Jehovah with 4 bible studies, one of which is getting baptized tomorrow!"
"Look at me, I'm so righteous...I read 10 chapters of the NWT every day and havn't missed a meeting in 10 years!"
"Look at me, I'm so righteous...I've been in the truth for 40 years and have regular pioneered the last 20!"
blah, blah, blah. Same old stuff every assembly and convention.
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By Chr*st! I think they are pushing Baptism!
by cultswatter inhere is that watchtower format change letter again .
christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100. .
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yaddayadda
I doubt very much this is a motive behind the change. As long as a Bible Student is still studying and attends an occasional meeting then he will be considered to be making progress. A Bible Student is hardly going to see this as an incentive to hurry up and get baptized. "Oooh, I better get baptized soon so I have the privilege of getting my own personal, shiny copy of the JW special Watchtower. Yippee". Yea right.
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What's the intent of Mat.23:1-3 ?
by Hoping4Change inthen jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying: the scribes and the pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of moses; therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them.
(mat.23:1-3 nasb).
i've been wondering a lot about what these verses.
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yaddayadda
I think Jesus was saying that it was not an excuse to disobey the law code simply because the scribes and pharisees were hypocritical jerks. He was saying that the Mosaic law code was still valid and beneficial and should be adhered to, but not in the self-righteous, fanatical, legalistic way the Pharisees were upholding it.
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August 15th Watchtower 2007: 1935 A GENTLE REMINDER
by AlphaOmega inlest you forget.... .
this provides another chance to highlight the change.. .
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yaddayadda
"The Bible does not supply a precise answer."
Same goes for their ridiculous 1914, 1918, 1919 dates. Those dates are hardly "precisely" found in the bible.
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Moon Landings - Real or Fake?
by Black Man ini've always wondered about this, especially recently.
i've always contended that they were real and ignored the conspiracy theories.
but if they were real, why hasn't nasa been able to send a man to the moon since the 1970s?
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yaddayadda
Both. They did indeed make it to the moon but the photos were so shitty that they faked some when they got back.
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Mind Control? or just usual group processes?
by January ini have limited knowledge about mind control from the psychology degree i have just finished.
i had been unhappy with my life as a witno for a long time but one particular lecture really pushed me to the point of leaving and after that lecture i never returned to the meetings.
the lecture was on brain washing tactics employed in the military, there were so many points that struck a chord with me.
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yaddayadda
A bit of both. There is information (mind) control and Groupthink with JW's. Groupthink is an immensely powerful force that is somewhat underestimated and JW's are one of the greatest religious examples of it.