avishai -
You have GORGEOUS hands
awww thanks.!
freedomlover
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Check this out! my first act of "rebellion"...
by freedomlover inwell, not really rebellion but that i've wanted one of these for a long time so i went and did it today, and i love it!
my little sister came out for a visit this weekend and i told her everything about leaving the jw's.
she has pretty much left about 6 months ago when she went away to college.
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Sharing the Joy... of Open Mindedness, and Apostasy
by RichieRich ini work with a few young witnesses.
actually, they work for me.
but that's not the point here.
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freedomlover
wow Richie, how cool!
just proceed with caution, she may get a conscience and cause some trouble for you.
I think there's a lot like her, but they just don't know how to get out.....
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Check this out! my first act of "rebellion"...
by freedomlover inwell, not really rebellion but that i've wanted one of these for a long time so i went and did it today, and i love it!
my little sister came out for a visit this weekend and i told her everything about leaving the jw's.
she has pretty much left about 6 months ago when she went away to college.
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freedomlover
LOL!! funny comments you guys...
lillycurl - sounds like a sweet tatt.
six - HA HA! my husband noticed the same thing when he took the pic.....I have a "bad" habit of forgetting to put it on.....
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Check this out! my first act of "rebellion"...
by freedomlover inwell, not really rebellion but that i've wanted one of these for a long time so i went and did it today, and i love it!
my little sister came out for a visit this weekend and i told her everything about leaving the jw's.
she has pretty much left about 6 months ago when she went away to college.
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freedomlover
jeeprube - oh owww! nipple piercing? don't think I could take that one...GGG - how cool, can't wait to see yours!
Richie - it's a date....I've got one in mind for me...
Purza and Margie - yeh, the girl who did my piercing said I had a perfect bellybutton for piercing, "wow, thanks!" and then she told me some piercings will push them selves out on their own. I hope mine doesn't.
Sunspot- HA! lol about your blood card. I got rid of mine a few weeks ago, and it was very liberating. love the idea of the cross earrings. I''ll have to try that sometime, just to tick someone off.
thanks so much for your comments..... I tried not to sleep on my stomach last night. it hurts when you roll over! It kept waking me up, but I'd smile to myself and then go back to sleep.....
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Check this out! my first act of "rebellion"...
by freedomlover inwell, not really rebellion but that i've wanted one of these for a long time so i went and did it today, and i love it!
my little sister came out for a visit this weekend and i told her everything about leaving the jw's.
she has pretty much left about 6 months ago when she went away to college.
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freedomlover
well, not really rebellion but that I've wanted one of these for a long time so I went and did it today, and I love it!she went with me to get my bellybutton ring. It was lots of fun....but it did hurt!
-freedomlover
...hope this pic comes through.
I know it's not a big deal to a lot of you, but it was to me, and I wanted to share....
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Did Jesus and the serpent have the same job?
by DavidChristopher indid the serpent put himself in harms way to "free" us and open new information, bringing us to his level, or was he trying to get worship like the "elders" today.
what would happen, if he told us to follow jesus, obey his commands, and seek after jesus?
the "elders" don't want that, would the "serpent"?
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freedomlover
Narkissos -
as usual WOW! cool stuff. lots to digest in my brain.....
makes new connections for me.
it's so interesting to see god portrayed as a jealous, cranky, pouting baby, who wants worship! ( as he stamps his feet here and throws a fit!)
at least that was my first impression of that reading......
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Never be sure of anything...
by Willow Tree inisnt it amazing how life can totally turn around and you end up in a place you swore you would never be in?
5 years ago, i was "happily" brainwashed, unaware of the deceptions.
i always thought that the jw's were right and everything against them was lies from satan.
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freedomlover
gumby -
just remember he knows how to use a bullwhip.
LOL!! Jesus and a bullwhip....hmmmm
jesus and a beard and his hotness..........
I wouldn't have to do some booty kicking...I'd have him come over with his little bullwhip, have some good kinky fun with Jesus, have him fall mad in love with me, and then drop him like a hot potato and break his heart, and then I'd have had my revenge on Jesus...........HA HA HA!
J/K - nothing personal against Jesus.
(cracking the whip here) freedomlover
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Never be sure of anything...
by Willow Tree inisnt it amazing how life can totally turn around and you end up in a place you swore you would never be in?
5 years ago, i was "happily" brainwashed, unaware of the deceptions.
i always thought that the jw's were right and everything against them was lies from satan.
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freedomlover
willow tree-
Its amazing, im at the exact place I swore and thought I would never end up at.
I agree with this one hundred percent.
I used to think atheist were totally off their rockers and now it's looking very desirable to me and makes the most sense to me so far as to why things are the way they are.
welcome to this board.
It seems you've traveled very far mentally. what started you down this path? did you have support before this?
hope to see you stick around - freedomlover
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If...
by Narkissos ini was thinking of an approximate reversal of force's thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/105552/1.ashx):.
if something happened which proved beyond any doubt that god (or gods) cannot exist, silencing forever all claims for realistic belief in an objective divinity, shattering even the uncertainty of agnosticism, would you start being interested in theology?.
i don't mean to discuss the probability of the assumption: it is very unlikely.
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freedomlover
of course I would....
it's human nature to question and challenge and advance ourselves whether mentally, physically, materially, etc.
if the huge, grand, idea of "ALMIGHTY GOD" was a theory that was relatively unexcepted as compared to evolution/atheism, I do think the majority of mankind would be interested in it.
try to see if it was a sustainable idea.
but who knows. the idea of theology is so emotionally connected to people that the supposed real basis behind theology has been lost in IMO.
people like their emotional connections. makes us feel safe and secure in an uncertain world. the idea of "god vs no-god" could both hold the same emotional impact for humans. "god" is just the way the human race has chosen to go at this period of time.
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Loyalty and betrayal
by Narkissos inthose are serious issues in the mind of any (future) xjw.. actually we're on an exceptional spot in life to ponder on the pitfalls of "loyalty" and the heartbreaking necessity of some "betrayal".. we can rationalise it by saying we are loyal to a higher instance (god, the "truth" or whatever).
yet the feeling (and sometimes guilt) of betrayal may be lingering in our minds.. may i remind those few lines from friedrich nietzsche (thus spake zarathustra):.
when zarathustra had spoken these words, he paused, like one who had not yet said his last word; and long did he balance the staff doubtfully in his hand.
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freedomlover
Narkissos:
beautiful.
I too, have thought of this recently. loyalty vs. betrayal and how they are relative. it depends how you are looking at the words, from what circumstance you are in. I have felt certain ones will look at me like I've betrayed them or god or the organization. I suppose I have. but in my betrayal, I have been loyal to myself. fine line here.
who determines loyalty? to what? to whom? why do I have to be loyal? why should I be loyal? loyal to what? my family, my spouse, my job, my god, my children, myself? what order do those go in and who determines the order of importance? such questions to figure out.......
tetra - your story of your friend and your wife. I have thought of them compared to my own friends and loved ones. when they hear about me and my "betrayal" many will have to stop and wonder why. it's so not in my character.
what if they turn their back on me? what if my loyalty, which encompassed betrayal, makes them stop and question there own loyalty and where it lies? that would be beautiful, and highly complimentary to me. if my betrayal can help another determine their own loyalty then I would be happy for them, and make this journey so much more worth it.