Posts by Inquisitor

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Taking One for the Team

by Perry in

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the wts has figured out that if you bring jesus out once a year, and create a "showy display", then the rank and file will be sufficiently convinced that the jw's hold jesus as a central figure in their beliefs.

to anyone else, it can immediately be seen for what it is.

a publicity stunt.

Inquisitor

So, which is it lurkers? Do you reject Christ because you're scared of what people will think? Or, do you reject him because you are are unable to come to him by divine mandate and your own "total depravity"?

Is that all? People reject Christ solely because they are:

1) cowards? social conformists?

2) depraved beings who revel in "sin"?

Do people not ALSO reject Christ because they have been convinced that he wasn't a historical person (regardless of whether or not you agree with that conviction)?

Do people not ALSO reject Christ because they are seriously hurt by what life throws at them and are thus disillusioned with God?

Do people not ALSO reject Christ because they are unimpressed with the way evangelicals preach a lovey-dovey Christ while simultaneously sweeping under the rug the horribly primitive ethical values (the ethnic cleansing, hooker-butchering, vagina-spearing tales) oozing out of the Old Testament?

You can buy sympathy by telling people how you were ill-treated (unecessarily) by a narrow-minded JW. But you won't see a drop of my sympathy for a sanctimonious, pietistic evangelical preacher on JWD.

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Gay Flight Attendant

by DJK in

> > my flight was being served by an obviously gay flight attendant,.

>who seemed to put everyone in a good mood as he served us food and.

> > as the plane prepared to descend, he came swishing down the aisle.

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ROFL!! Good one

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107

I'm a Liar

by Perry in

so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

so, i pull over and wave him over.

after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

Inquisitor

I told him I was shocked at someone calling me a liar for asking a simple question. He knocked on my car in a friendly sort of way and said that he had to go.

Well, Perry, look at it this way: you must have perturbed this stubborn and stupid JW man to the point that he starts calling you names instead of making a proper argument. He must be fuming that he had nothing further to say to show you that he knows more. I really liked your repartee on the Master's words being superior to Daniel's. Nice one!

Religious bigotry brings out the worst in a person. So don't fret over that man's rudeness.

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New Light on Lions Eating Straw ! ? !

by Open mind in

newbie poster here looking for advice.

i've been looking for posts on the borg moving away from a literal understanding of isaiah 65:25 and couldn't find any.

i posted in the private support members only area with a much longer post and it's been pretty much ignored.

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what about marine life? Are sharks going to eat kelp? - para

Well thought out arguments, para!

But you know what sucks? Scientific observations are not gonna cut it with Juggernaut Jah. If the animals should disobey the Thunderous One, they might be:

i) kicked out of Paradise and be cursed to roam on another planet until Jesus packs his bags for another missionary + martyrdom trip.

ii) drowned in a global deluge again (stuff the rainbow. who said Jah has to play by His own rules?) as the carnivores kick and claw at an ark-load of self righteous humans and cud-chewing cuddlies

iii) turned into a cubes of salt for staring too long at plump Bambi

So it don't matter if their jaws or teeth or bones are not adapted to eat straw. If Jah tells you to eat straw you had better do so, or He will mess you real good. No wonder the demons shudder.

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New Light on Lions Eating Straw ! ? !

by Open mind in

newbie poster here looking for advice.

i've been looking for posts on the borg moving away from a literal understanding of isaiah 65:25 and couldn't find any.

i posted in the private support members only area with a much longer post and it's been pretty much ignored.

Inquisitor

Hello and welcome!

May I ask what gave you the impression that the Watchtower Society has stepped away from the literal interpretation of the Lion and straw prophecy? As far as I'm aware, they haven't. But I could be wrong.

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Another letter...

by Matt_fs in

hey folks, i sent a letter to a friend, and asked him a question.

here is what i wrote:.

"hey buddy,.

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the GB claims that the Holy Spirit does not act today in the way it used to, which is a very devious and false statement to justify their predictions and dogmatic errors. - greendawn

Really? Is this a recent admission? Where? When?

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Another letter...

by Matt_fs in

hey folks, i sent a letter to a friend, and asked him a question.

here is what i wrote:.

"hey buddy,.

Inquisitor

Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions ‘in the name of Jehovah.’ Never did they say, ‘These are the words of Jehovah.’ The Watchtower, the official journal of Jehovah’s Witnesses, has said: “We have not the gift of prophecy.” (January 1883, page 425) “Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible.” (December 15, 1896, page 306) The Watchtower has also said that the fact that some have Jehovah’s spirit “does not mean those now serving as Jehovah’s witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes.” (May 15, 1947, page 157) “The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic.” (August 15, 1950, page 263) “The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18)”—February 15, 1981, page 19."

Faced with such nauseating pseudo-humility on the part of the Watchtower Society, I cannot help but ask if the Society and the power structures they put in place tolerate ANY dissenting views from its members.

In which congregation has the body of elders allowed any of its members to voice in their public meetings an analytically critical comment (as opposed to a pessimistic critique) of the articles written by Bethel HQ WITHOUT the threat of discipline or excommunication??? If disciplinary action is the norm and not the exception under those circumstances, then does the Watchtower Society not behave as if their written words are both infallible and inspired of God?

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"Did not defile themselves with women"

by Legolas in

so the 144000, wouldn't you say then are all men?.

i can't remember what crap excuse they gave for that one to get out of it not only being men....but all the writer had to say was 'they were virgins' if it was both sexes.. what do you think?.

Inquisitor

So the 144000, wouldn't you say then are all men?

"These are the ones that did not defile themselves with women, in fact, they are virgins..."- Rev 14:4

Not 144,000 men, silly. 144,000 unused tampons!

A woman cannot defile a man anymore than a man defiles a woman (as it happens in some cases of vaginitis).

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Ghosts and using God's name

by Quexinos in

okay im just gonna ask my question because i'm curious.

i'm still not even sure if there are actual witnesses here or just people aruging with them (some people have too much free time) .

see lately i've been watching this show "a haunting" and a lot of the episodes are the same.

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"I used to study with some witnesses who mentioned once that using God's name in a haunting situation can be powerful enough to get rid of the ghost/demon/whatever. (1) Is this actually true?" -Quexinos

In terms of my extensive personal experience with the supernatural, let me just say that I have none.

But one can't help but wonder WHY the articulation of God's name should freak the sh!t out of ghouls/spirits/malevolent souls.

Does the sound frequency generated by the verbalization of the word "J-E-H-O-V-A-H" have some "magical" property? If so, what if I was a non-English speaking amatuer exorcist? Would my version of the name (Ieova, Ehoba, Yahweh, Yehehua, Jeova etc.) have an effect on the ghost bully? Has God imbued every known version of His name with Ghostbusting properties? Oh and is it "Jehovah" or "Jesus" that is the appropriate "banishing spell"? Does it matter? Are these spirits educated enough to recognize the Trinity?

Does mention of the Almighty scare our otherwordly monsters or does it piss them off? If the name of the Most Holy scares them, does mention of the Most Unholy scare good angels? Why not?

If the use of God's name actually alerts the Big Guy to action, why does it not work for JWs who perished in (insert recent disaster here)? Is Salvation dished out arbitrarily?

"I mean, I guess what Im wondering is if there's any way to get rid of them for good because all the blessings and what not seem to do is anger ghosts. (2) What SHOULD you do in a haunting situation? " -Quexinos

Grab your camera, drop your boxers, and see who gets to say BOO first.

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Specific banned shows, songs, etc...?

by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

i know the society tells people not to listen to rock n roll cause its from teh satan, not to watch r rated movies because they're "worldly", etc.

but i was wondering if folks had any specific instances where one song, one show, one movie, or whatever was singled out as being particularly 'evil', and banned on an individual basis?

i was never a jw, but was in the worldwide church of god...the two are rather similar, i've seen many (and made quite a few myself) comparisons on the board; and i can remember as a child that every once in a while certain things would get brought up as being more evil and worldly than others.. examples of specific bans:.

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Many years ago, little Inq played a song on a musical instrument at a gathering of brothers. It wasn't a fantastic, standing-ovation-type performance. It was a simple effort by a kid to entertain the brothers and sisters that evening. At the end of the song, an elder walked up to little Inq and said, "That song is actually not appropriate for us. Do you know what it's all about? It's a song about a prostitute telling her customers when to pay her a visit!"

The title of that song was "Never On A Sunday".

Now this brother is no longer an elder. Initially, his anorexic wife caught him looking up porn on the Internet.

The second and later offense, it was rumored, involved inappropriate behaviour towards a sister. Br. Porn is still trying very hard to show repentance and is struggling to live up to the Society's rules and men's harsh judgements of his mistakes.

Irony can be so entertaining...

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