There are a few of us here who have lost our moms thanks to the cult. I may be a bit old to have you as a mom, but I sure would treat you right if you were mine. Maybe we should have some kind of adoption service on this site, pairing up members who have ost family members.
Shawn10538
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Shunned again
by tak inmy son called me yesterday, first time in probably 6 weeks, because he lost his car keys, the car is in my name, so i had to get another set from the dealership.
anyways, it doesn't really matter what he called about, it was just in 6 weeks he only calls because he needs something, not a peep before that (very hurtful).
a brother drove him to my office and it was quittin time so i went outside with him and gave him the keys, i was hurt and didn't say much to him.
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How Can people talk to Children like that....
by Hope4Others ini was coming out of the grocery store with a few items, and a round the corner comes a woman with 2 young.
boys about 7 or 8. she seemed a little clutsey, she raises her voice, the whole damn parking lot could of heard.. they were walking a head of her, she says "if you trip me boy, your going to sit in the truck all day.
like a lot but geez its 29 degrees celsius and extremely humid.
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Shawn10538
Not that this is an attribute of black people, but living here in Long Beach, several black families just moved into my apartment building. I hear every posible degrading, sexually explicit word imaginable, and in a variety of combinations, being hailed upon children, even tiny infants all day long.
Being a teacher in South Central, I see and hear the same kind of yelling and screaming by parents of my students all the time, right on school grounds or in front where they drop them off. Cursing at toddlers with words like MF, S***,( well, why bother listing them, they use them all.) Calling toddlers a "piece of s***" is a daily thing for these moms from the hood. Ride the Blue Line once and you'll see what I mean.
I honestly didn't know that kind of abuse (though some will just call it a cultural thing) existed until I spent some time in the hood, or in this recent case, my lovely landlords are bringing the hood to me.
There was a great article written when I was in my credential program on the subject of teaching black children, which is my job, that addressed the issue of why it is so hard for white people to teach black children. Without a doubt black children are the most challenging children to teach of all races and cultures, if you are going to divide people up in that way, this is an undeniable fact known by anybody who has ever tried it, and has been able to compare it to teaching any other race or culture of children.
One reason this one author said that it is so hard to do is that the parenting style of black parents involves very stern tones, yelling, screaming, cussing and talking with "attitude." So when a mild mannered whte guy stands up in front of a class of black students and mildly asks them to be seated and get ready to learn, laughter breaks out uncontrollably.
Black kids need you to go toe to toe with them before they will respect you because that is what their parents do. Unfortunately we can not cuss. In my experience the most successful days teaching black kids, I had to maintain an incredible amoutnt of intensity in my voice just to gt them to listen to me. If I didn't sound angry, they would just ignore me or laugh at me. You have to have a tone in your voice that says, "I am going to kill you you little MF if you don't sit your a88 down and shut up."
I am sure I will get a lot of replies from non-teachers or teachers who have never taught in the hood telling me I'm a racist. But, anybody who has actually taught inner city black kids will agree with me 100%. You have to be one tough MF to teach these kids. Their parents may be wise or ignorant in the way they discipline their kids, I don't know. I don't know if the kids are just so hard headed that you must yell at them all the time and that is why the parents do it, or possibly that is just the way the parents are and the kids being used to it must get similar treatment from every adult or else they don't mind them.
I don't know if the stern treatment is the reaction or the cause in other words. I just know if you come off as remotely weak, they will chew you up and spit you out. I have kids come up to me and tell me "F*** you MF! You ain't s*** to me" every single day. You have to come right back at them as if you were in a street fight, o else they will attck you every day like that. -
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Ran into old JW friend in the airport...Correspondence has ensued...
by Confession init was the same weekend that my mom and dad, to my surprise, agreed to meet with me.
i was in midland, michigan, about a month ago, only an hour or so from where they live.
in the airport on monday morning, in walked john, someone i remembered well from the jw congregation of my youth.
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Shawn10538
Due to the following issues, I would like my account disabled or deleted:
1. I have never gotten a response from the mods about any of the many concerns I have had over the last few years, be they technical difficulties, problems posting etc. I have been ignored. So, this complaint is about your bad service.
2.I have been barred from starting new topics and severely limited in the number of posts I can make without explanation. Again, when I asked you (simon) through PM and other mods, I was ignored. Again, bad service. No service.
3. The increasing attitude of censorship on the board and your own (Simon's) blatant, cocky arrogance and disinterest in customer satisfaction is not the type of movement I wish to be a part of.
4. I am not understood by very many on this board, so my contributions are valueless and a waste of time for everybody.
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Do you ever feel like you just need a change?
by Princess Daisy Boo inall is good in my life... everything is just ticking over.
my family is healthy and happy.
my kids are great, and me and mr daisy boo is fine.
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Why don't you change lives with me you ungrateful swine?
I wake up every day in excruciating pain. My back was injured in Bethel; it has been useless to me since. It has been reinjured almost every year since then. I have no family at all (lost a couple dozen relatives when I got DFd, mother father best friend brother and 7 more bros and sisters all shun me to the extreme thinking I am apostate and just plain crazy) and have not been in a serious relationship since I got fat and bald and broke 8 years ago.
I have a very few close friends, but none so close that I am hugged and touched in any way regularly. No one ever touches me. No one wants to or maybe I scare them away because I am so ugly and mean looking. I am bitter, angry, sad, depressed all the time. I feel no joy in life whatsoever. I take massive amounts of drugs every day to fight the pain and more at night to help me sleep because I keep waking up every 10 minutes due to pain in my body from fibromyalgia or possibly lupus which is being looked into right now but I don't know why I bother.
I have lost every job I have had in the past 10 years from usually smarting off to someone, doing sub-standard work, not working fast enough or not getting along with people in authority (which I can't handle since Bethel.) I accomplished a bachelor's degree last year, but failed my student teaching. I was still able to get a job as a teacher, but I couldn't get along with work mates and the department chair and they didn't renew my contract. I'm too proud to do physical labor, plus I'm in pain and have several herniated discs that I can't afford to have fixed.
I lived like a dog for 8 years putting myself through college. That dedication cost me just about everything I had, which was not much in the first place. I was homeless twice and no one took me in. No friends no relatives, even though tey knew I was sleeping in the streets or in the bushes. I have been in debt since I first went back to school and even working full time I have not been able to even make a dent in the debt. I will be in debt the rest of my life, and I haven't even started paying my student loan off.
I'm a real winner and women love me, especially my sunny disposition and attitude. Actually, no woman ever gets close enogh to me to even find out what a bad attitude I have. It's been years since anyone has tried. I mean, why can't I just be happy about the last 10 years of agony, mental, physical and emotional. Think of all the wonderful character traits pure torture gives a person. Whatever doesn't kill me just makes me stronger right?
I could go on but I'm just getting more depressed. Plus I'm in so much pain right now, at 5am that i need to down a few more pain killers so I can sleep for a couple of hours before I have to get up. When I do get up, I will still be alone, and that's the worst part. I wasted my youth and health on a stupid Magic Tonic that turned out to be a hoax. The future does not look bright for me. I am going downhill physically mentally and emotionally. I have been for a long time. It's apparent to me that my ride is coming to a close and I feel powerless to do anything about it.
I just bought a motorcycle and it broke down on the way home. I'm out 3,500 dollars that I didn't have and now have no working vehicle. I've driven shitty cars my whole life. never had a new one that didn't get repo'd in the first 3 months. I live in a tiny shitty apartment with crack addict neighbors that are making drug transactions, very loudly in the middle of the night, waking me up continually. The back of my apartment is in a parking lot that is lit up by a giant hallogen street light just inches from my window making it further difficult to sleep with a blinding yellow light in my eyes. Also, all the cars that park there have that kind of alarm that beeps the car horn when it is being activated or inactivated. This happens at all hours of the day and night. The loudest one owned by a man who works swing shift or something is right in front of my bedroom window. I hear his horn and smell his exhaust every single morning at about 4 am.
I can't move because my credit is so bad and I have evictions on my record. To find this apartment I had to go through a special community program for retards (no offence intended because I am obviously one, and a special ed. teacher!)
You know, I could just go on forever. I have a list of things in my life that I am grateful for of course. Things like being literate, free of a cult, having a degree, writing timeless classics of songs that nobody seems to think much of but me. But somehow I am just so sick of the pain and the hassel this earthly form is giving me, that I just don't think my list of positives, even if it were longer than the list of negatives, just does not create enough positiveness to get me out of my hole.
After the great loss, nothing can really make up for the loss of an entire family and hundreds of friends. That is called devastation. That is called game over. Even if I were to become king of the world after that, it still wouldn't make up for that loss. Maybe I am giving too much value to blood relatives, but as daft as she is, I still love my mom, and I will probably never see her again. I won't go to the funeral either. So, that story is over. All my stories seem to be coming to an end. I just don't see anything working out. I am tired of trying so hard and getting minimal results. I surrender. Whoever is running this crazy rollercoaster, I surrender. you can have it back. I just don't want to see things get worse. I mean, I am so used to shitty things happening I am almost numb to them. When my motorcycle was found to be a total loss, I wasn't surprised at all. In fact I felt nothing. My friend Jeff loked at me like i was crazy because I was staying so calm. That's funny I get called crazy when I over react and I get called crazy when I under react. I don't see that point changing in the future either.
Lady, please change lives (and gender apparently) with me. I promise I won't take your life for granted for one moment. I won't ever need a change. When you are living on the street, you get that change every single day. I know you will just love living my life. You will never feel secure again, or comfortable. You will feel all my pain and you'll say, "Geez, I sure am glad I don't have that cushy life anymore, things are much better here in this dumpster." -
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Countdown to IRAN
by sacolton inseems that dubya wants to either invade iran or take out the nuclear threat before his term ends.
what do you guys think of this?
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Shawn10538
Hopefully this is not news to anyone. Didn't we know we were going to war with Iran as far back as the first war with Iraq? Was it not specifically mentioned as on the agenda of the "War team" (republicans, and the Council on Foreign Affairs) that far back? Yes it was. Everything we have heard since then about Iran has only been propaganda used for the express purpose of getting the American people on board with it, which is an extremely easy thing to do as history has shown. Usually the American people are already signed up and in their war boots before the reason for the war has even left the mouths of the propagandists. Easiest thing in the world to do is to convince a bunch of poor people to go overseas and kill a bunch of other poor peopl for the rich people who told you to do it.
Hopefully we all know that we are also going to war with Venezuela, or at least going to assassinate Chavez and over throw his government. After those countries anyone here can guess the next few countries we are either going to invade outrightly or in some other way destabiolize the governments of other countries by giving arms to guerilla groups that are opposing the present (usually democratically elected) government. Columbia has been on that list for some time. Chile was and will be again if they dare to disallow American and British corporations like Dole from owning all their land. Argetina of course has been the victim of US assasinations and government overthrowing. Haiti. Phillipines. Haiti again. Puerto Rico. Japan. Panama. El Salvador. Nicaragua...
It is simply what we do here in America. It has been our foreign policy to do this since the close of the Civil War. See the book, Addicted to War for a few dozen other examples of the US doing this. Also see, Lies my Teacher Told me and The People's History of the US among many others. -
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Has anyone tried Japanese Wasabi...try if you dare...
by zeroday ini had some with a shrimp cocktail and let me tell you about blew my head off... this is not me but a youtube example.... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zznqlbcx3_m&feature=related.
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The first time I had Wasabi was in Toronto when I was on vacation. I has never seen it before so I announced to the table of more than 10 people with me, "Just to show you how open minded I am about food, I am going to put this whole thing (a giant ball of Wasabi) in my mouth without knowing what it is."
Pop, in it went. Nothing. Then suddenly I couldn't breathe, my face flushed, everyone was laughing and I was desperately trying to say, "Call 911." Seriously, I thought I was going to die. -
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Dating a JW and need some help
by Whizkid ini've been 'going out' with a beautiful girl and we have a great time together.
we have a lot of similar interests and always have stuff to talk/do.
the problem is that she's a jw, and i know there is no way i'm going to become a jw.
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Shawn10538
If you can get her to leave the cult, fine, but you really should not date a cult member of any cult. there is only a couple of ways it can go down:
1. She leaves the cult and enters counseling from an experienced cult exit counselor and you live happily ever after.
2. You join the cult, wheter now or 20 years from now, if she is in she will never give up trying to get you in. After all she doesn't want you to die at Armageddon. Many men have joinrd the cult after 15 or 20 years of marriage, inexplicably. One of you will wear down eventually, or it will remain a point of contention forever. -
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Suicides at Bethel
by CunningMan inin another thread (i forget which), someone mentioned that somebody committed suicide at bethel.
is this true and if so, how often does it happen?
how many people did it?
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Shawn10538
I know that at the Farm a few years before I got there, according to my friend Tilden Berger and a few others, some Bethelite jumped off the E Building into the pool area. It could have been a Bethek legend but I don't think Tilden would have just made something up like that. When I got to the farm I heard it repeated and repeated it myself a few times and I was never contradicted, so it could be true.
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Any Odetta Fans Here?
by Rapunzel inodetta is an african-american singer, guitarist, and songwriter who was a great influence on such artists as joan baez, janis joplin, and bob dylan.
her musical repetoire consists mainly of anglo-american folk and traditional music, blues, and negro spirituals.
in addition to being greatly entertained, a person is also educated when listening to her music because oftimes, she will gloss or explain the origin of the song that she is singing.
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Shawn10538
I love Odetts! An amazing performer/songwriter. Did you see her perform on Tavis Smiley recently/ Amazing. She had a terrific pianist playing with her that used classical accompaniment along with Odetta's folk/gospel sound. An absolutely incredible mixture of styles in the sam song. Her new album is superb. She is so under rsted I wish every person who listens to Eric Clapyon, the most over reated musicisn I know, would stop listening to him and just listen to Odetta for the rest of their lives. Their lives would be so much richer.
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Why JW's don't vote. (found on msn.com)
by Mulan inhttp://www.slate.com/id/2194321/>1=39001.
just turned on my internet, and this was on the front page..
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Shawn10538
There is absolutely no way that sratistic is correct. 13% of JWs registered to vote? In all my years as a Witness, I never heard of a single person registering to vote. I neverknew it was a conscience matter until I came to this board. Imopossible! I'll never believe that statistic. 13% is closer to the amount of average Americans that are registered to vote, so why would JWs have a similar percentage as the general population? They say that 50% of americans are registered. I have a hard time believing that is accurate too. I know so many who aren't registered to vote. Even some who are quite active politically just don't trust the electoral process and want no part of it.