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hope the scans show up ok.. the article is presented as it comes, for your own assessment.
you could not make this stuff up!
Alright, which one of you sent the question in, come on, fess up,
I always wondered about this section, there is no address to send in a question is there ???
I always viewed it as a way of the GB to point their point across by making it look like someone asked the question. Too bad it didn't say who sent it in.
so, if someone is of the 144,000, dies, and supposedly goes to heaven, is it still possible for them to be misled, or kicked out, thus needing another replacement.
if the answer is yes, i guess the 144,000 will never be completed, in fact eventually they will have 144,000 replacements, then 144,000 replacements replacing the replacements, doh !
So, if someone is of the 144,000, dies, and supposedly goes to heaven, is it still possible for them to be misled, or kicked out, thus needing another replacement. If the answer is yes, I guess the 144,000 will never be completed, in fact eventually they will have 144,000 replacements, then 144,000 replacements replacing the replacements, doh !
i rented a house in the late !970's and the contents in the home were given to me.. it happened to be books: ( making my life happy, revelation, children bible stories, listening to the great teacher ) i was enjoying the reading.. -----------------------------------.
a few years later began to notice awake magazines in doctor offices, and other public places and read them and enjoyed them.. ------------------------------------.
late 1980's my 7th son was 2 yrs.
growing up as a kid in the 70's (and early 80's), did you ever notice at the assembly that there was always someone who had a tape recorder on stage and was taping the whole assembly.
are these tapes around today, generally i would love to hear some talks that were given before 1975 and see how many brothers said something big was going to happen, because we all know the watchtower never said that !!!
(yeah right).. any websites that might have a few of these or other interesting topics ???.
Growing up as a kid in the 70's (and early 80's), did you ever notice at the assembly that there was always someone who had a tape recorder on stage and was taping the whole assembly.
Are these tapes around today, generally I would love to hear some talks that were given before 1975 and see how many brothers said something big was going to happen, because we all know the Watchtower never said that !!! (Yeah right).
Any websites that might have a few of these or other interesting topics ???
Of course JW's will say that it is apostates who made these tapes, yep, we all sound like Nathan Knorr and Freddie Franz, in fact we are so good at making them up, we even included rain and thunder on the tapes and babies crying or whatever background noises would happen.
a person who cannot reveal his/her identity has asked that i post this research regarding how long it is taking for the "remnent" to die before armageddon comes.. ====.
a recent jwd posting (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/110850/1.ashx) got me playing with remnant figures in excel.
the results are obvious, and frankly not surprising.
Thanks very much for posting, I have been looking for this !!!!!!!!
I agree that the 1935 year will have to adjusted, they have no choice,
by the year 2114 they will have 144,000 replacements
hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i was reading some of the first " topics " on this db and i noticed that a few former elders and publishers .
were stumbled by this date.... i was born after 1975 and i'd really appreciate any comments from brothers and sisters who were around .
what i've noticed from personal experience is that many brothers and sisters feel that only " a few " were stumbeled .
I believe this is from the Watchtower May 15, 1984, has the cover with a bunch of old people, titled the generation that will not pass away, I think !!!!!
i actually never liked the memorial.
it was`nt a very spiritual occasion at all really.
i hated feeling guilty about not doing the scheduled bible reading.
i had a nice conversation with an elder recently and it illustrates why reform of the organization is nearly impossible.
this elder.
is very aware of how bad things are becoming in congregations and he worries about his retirement.
And reform won't happen, ............ because ....................
Like it or NOT, 90% of break-ups and divorces, revolve around .............. MONEY,
let's face it, NO ONE likes to struggle and fight for every penny to stay alive, I'm not saying that having money will prevent a break-up, but it does add some security. And most JW's don't make much money and have kids and just can't make ends meet, and have enough time for meetings and time with their kids.
It's just reality, and the Watchtower's VOICE that the end is near and you don't need an education you just need faith in Jehovah is not helping.
what year was this bible translated?
it doesnt even say who translated it.
did this russel guy get bored and want to start his own religion or something.
It was written by Freddie Franz and only Freddie Franz, oh don't get me wrong, others did help, but he had to approve everything, as it had to cross his desk first.
for those who have not yet seen this issue.
called "the golden age" in 1919, the name was changed to "consolation" in1937, and to "awake!
" in 1946. beginning with this issue, the format of awake!
wonder why they didn't mention the "Creator's Promise to bring an end BEFORE the generation of 1914 passes away" which appeared from 1981-1995. Guess they forgot that.