That ex-JW book, "Out of the Coccoon" might give inspiration. A Watchtower (part of a building) with a beautiful butterfly coming out of it, taking flight, and free.
Or, you could do Sparlock....
Skeeter
sorry for the previous post..... i fat fingered and can't figure out how to delete it.... .
i want a tattoo, but i want it to make a statement.
and that statement is that i think the jw's are a cult and bad in all ways.
That ex-JW book, "Out of the Coccoon" might give inspiration. A Watchtower (part of a building) with a beautiful butterfly coming out of it, taking flight, and free.
Or, you could do Sparlock....
Skeeter
i have been reading post on this forum for many months and i wanted to thank you all for all the great posts and comments that have really helped me get through this hard year of fading.
my husband and i where born in jdubs and almost 1 year ago we started to fade , now that we think about it has been a few years that we were suffering from cognitive dissonance without knowing it.
we feel that finally we have our life back , a life that is just starting.
Another close relative of mine left the Truth before me. He choose to go live in a foreign country where he totally didn't know any of the language or customs. Looking back, he realizes that part of the allure was that there 'would be a reason' why he didn't fit in.
Yes, worldlies love to talk with us. They are interested and want to know the scoop.
Skeeter
page 8 of the latest wt (insider version) has a whole page dedicated to the question whether it is appropriate to sit next to a disfellowshipped child at meetings.. not sure how to paste this in, but check jw.org.
perhaps someone can do this for me.. horrible, no words really on how pharisee like their cult grip and control has become!.
first of all, without any shame they are talking about disfellowshipped minors.
Hawk, you hit on something! Make the JWs believe that they are a weak, tempted group. After all, Satan is about every corner trying to weaken them. If people beleive they are incapable, then the WTS can swoop in as the strong provider of proper, Christian ideas. Including , where to seat your children at church.
do more service.
don't drink too much booze.
don't watch porn on your computer we know you still do.
"Don't buy that latest electronic device one of the elders wives might get jealous"
ReallY?
i have been reading post on this forum for many months and i wanted to thank you all for all the great posts and comments that have really helped me get through this hard year of fading.
my husband and i where born in jdubs and almost 1 year ago we started to fade , now that we think about it has been a few years that we were suffering from cognitive dissonance without knowing it.
we feel that finally we have our life back , a life that is just starting.
Welcome to our worldly lair. LOL.
I was born in. What I found out after leaving the Truth, is that I don't have a "normal" to return to. Others who were in the world before, have that to latch back onto. So many times, I feel like a stranger in a strange world. But, then I tell someone a story about my past and I think, "My, that JW life was wierder (i.e. fu**** up) world then the real one."
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page 8 of the latest wt (insider version) has a whole page dedicated to the question whether it is appropriate to sit next to a disfellowshipped child at meetings.. not sure how to paste this in, but check jw.org.
perhaps someone can do this for me.. horrible, no words really on how pharisee like their cult grip and control has become!.
first of all, without any shame they are talking about disfellowshipped minors.
So, there must be alot of disfellowshipped teens in the Kingdom Halls being dragged back for meetings for the WTS to spill ink on the subject? All those children & tween baptisms are creating a problem.
Or, parents are worried that a disfellowshipped teen/relative can't come back to the Kingdom Hall because he'd have to sit alone. That is a chiller to get the relative to return. So, if the WTS allows the relatives to sit together, then he comes back into the great big LOVE family. Of course, the disfellowshipped is goign to have to sit in the middle of the family or on an end chair, so as to buffer the pure Christians?
Personally, I think this is a response by the Legal Department. The WTS has been hit with whether or not people, including minors, can give "informed consent" to refusing blood. Part of informed consent means that the JW is not coerced. A slice of the coercion piece includes that the person would be shunned at meetings, having to sit in back, etc. Now, the Legal Department can begin to argue that being disfellowshipped isn't that big of a deal and the WTS does not split up families. . . . why, they are allowed to even sit together at the Kingdumb Hall.
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excerpt from july 2013 km article "new initiatives for public witnessing".
4 how the witnessing is done: those.
involved in special metropolitan public.
But, if Jehovah is all knowing and made us . . . why would he need the JWs or even have to scan hearts?
i've made no secret that i do not like the place or the people where i work.. i've had to borrow money to get my drums/brakes fixed.
i dropped my car off this morning before work.
i hesitantly spoke to one of the bosses (female that is so irritating) asking if i could please go pick up the car once they phoned to say it was ready - if i could use the time i usually took for lunch.
Shirley W - ouch. I am a terrible speller, but I used spell check when I worked for him ALL THE TIME. If he had found a word mispelled, he totally would have chewed my arse out. No, it wasn't my fault. He rarely had a male worker stay for over 6 months. Chicks could hold on for a year. He's only had 3 people "hang on" for over 5 years - all women. He boasted about it. Human resources sent him to training often, due to lawsuits against him. He was a "looker" when it came to women. He once offered to a female worker to share his bedroom with him and his wife, if her husband would allow it. He made a point to run out all male workers super fast. They were competition.
today we are launching freeminds2.org.
this is stage 3 of a three part project spanning over 30 years since i left watchtower headquarters in 1980 and gave the 18 members of the then-governing body, including president nathan knorr and vice-president frederick w. franz.. the new site will be more blog/news oriented (and updated more often with articles, blogs and videos almost daily).. all of our previous sites, such as armageddonokies.com and watchtowerworld.org, randytv.com, exjws.net, and others will be incorporated into the previous freeminds site, which is currently being revised and converted from its joomla-based format to this wordpress format.
i am sure you will find it much easier to search for words, people, articles, and subject very easy.
Great change! I hope you are feeling better.
Skeeter
does anyone know why the watchtower named their bible the new world translation of the holy scriptures?
it's been awhile since i have even had any of their books in my home, and most of the time i don't think about it.
i don't know why, but when i think of that title, the phrase new world order keeps popping up in my mind..
Did you know that most of regular christians think the New World is a literal new world. it's not a refurbished Earth. Blew my JW trained mind when I first heard of that.
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