I ASSURE YOU THAT BLOOD IS SACRED TO MOSQUITOS.
SKEETER
I ASSURE YOU THAT BLOOD IS SACRED TO MOSQUITOS.
SKEETER
when i got home from work this afternoon my wife was standing near the door looking at me and said you need to sit down i have some hard news to tell you.
so i sat down and she began saying my brother called and i imminently ask if my mom had died.
she said no but my mother told my brother a deep family secrect that no one knows about.
Your half brother could be a great man, or not. Keep an open mind that you may find him in any state, shape, or form. Don't idealize him. Personally, I would try to find my half-sibling.
i'm five months into my slow fade and it's going so-so.
my saturday morning was spent on a 3-mile jog and taking the kids to the park, which was great, but i'm still shuddering from the potential alternative.
at the last meeting, an elderette literally blocked the exit to prevent my escape and said she just "noticed" that we were in the same field service group and would i like to work with her in service on saturday?
A friend of mine admitted that he just flat out lies to another dude who presssures him into doing things. Now, my friend just tells the dude, "Sure, we'll do that." The dude is pleased and is off his back. But, back when my friend tried to give the badgerer dude any logical reasons, "Can't, No money, no vacation, kids sick." then the badger dude kept bugging him. Like OCD badgering. So, my friend decided to say, "Sure, we'll do that" just to get the dude off his freaking back. Surpringly, the badgerer quits. By tthe time comes for the deed, the badgerer dude has forgotten about it (or has changed his plans anyway). The badgerer is just trying to do a power play, and when the badgerer has lost the battle (i.e. my friend gives in) . .. the badgerer is happy. It's not really about going into (service, fishing, trips, etc), it's about power.
So, tell the person that you'll go out in service on Saturday, and you'll meet at the normal place the group meets (Kingdom Hall). Then, don't show up. This person will have forgotten and go out with someone else in service. This person might ask you, and just say that it wasn't a good day. Repeat process as needed. It will not take long, and then the person will give up and move along.
i have been on this site lurking for over 2 years and this is my first post, i feel so bottled with emotion that i have to let it out somehow so i do not have an emotional breakdown!
i was raised in the organization and am married with 2 children ages 4 and 2. my wife and i have been inactive for about 2 years and i have always had hard questions that were never answered growing up, such as blood policy and how david and his men were allowed to eat from the bread reserved for the high priests without death penalty since it was life or death.
carbon dating on human remains/tools that date back 30-40k years, far surpassing the 6k year man creation date, the double standards and very real "human" aspect on the organization and its decisions and history.
Onlly teach your children to believe in what you believe in. If you have doubts, then don't teach it to them. Or, tell them that "Daddy & mommy are not sure..."
Life does not have to be absolute. Isn't that what the JWs try to teach, absolute certainty? Everything is pretty much black or white, and the indiviuals in the group fear straying from the group's deemed prinicpals. The Society tells you that your and their life depends on you teaching them as the Watchtower Society has decided the Bible to be. Chess game is evil. College is evil. National Honor Society is evil.
I tell my children all the time that I don't know all of the answers, and that life holds many mysteries. I warn them to beware of anyone who thinks they have the all-knowing answer.
I met with a psychologist who speciliazes in helping people out of high control/cultish religions. Know what he said? There are two rules in running a cult. The first rule is: 1) the leader(s) must first convince a convert that they speak for God (or the most high form of fill in the blank) ; and then 2) the followers must sit down, shut up, or else. The "or else" is that they face punishment by the group. The fear of non-obediance runs very high, causing pyschosis for not being able to reach the leadership's almost impossible goals of purity and blind allegiance. Know what else he said? I was born in, raised in too. He said that I would always feel, "like a stranger in a strange land." I didn't have a 'normal' to revert to. He said it would be normal for anyone raised in one of these groups who leaves to feel that way. So, when I feel like I don't fit in, I accept it and move on with my life.
As far as your children. If you do stay near the JWs, please don't allow them with ANY JW alone. I'm sure you figured out the pedophile issues inside the Kingdom Hall.
Welcome,
Skeeter
from radio biola to a sister who said you can treat autism and ptsd with scented oils, jws have had some weird some weird ideas about medicine.
what gems have you heard?.
Hot peppers in my ear, to cure a head cold.
i am durden.. a teenager that is an unbaptized publisher and is trying to leave this damn cult !!!.
i have been lurking here for some time and i decided to start posting with this intro.. im from europe, both my parents are jw's, my parents are both teachers (math teachers).. my parents are "softcore" jw's, they accept all my questions and try to answer them.. i am trying to "convert" my dad (an elder which might complicate things), me and my dad recently had various discussions about the org ("discussions" on the good sense of the word).. we talked about jehovah in the nt, 1975, 1914, gb in 1st century, the cross, "new lights" ..., you know the usual stuff.. and all is going well i think, i think i can "convert" him until the end of summer.. i mean is a logical man, what can go wrong ?
man, when i found jwfacts it was like my world had collapsed, all thoses lies .... but its good now to have found the truth.
Welcome, I loved math as a kid and dream of becoming a math teacher in my next life.
Skeeter
so we know all the things the wts prevents us from doing, but that's much, much different than the stuff we've grown accustomed to.. for those who have been out for a number of years, what kind of things would end up being abandoned if you suddenly started going back to the kingdom hall?
you know, stuff that you now do on the nights you used to attend meetings, the things you own, the things you wear, etc..
Hockey. I'd be sad to lose my skating nights, games, and friendships.
But, losing my intelligence, having to parrot the answers from the WTS and trying to fit in with everyone else by smiling and being fake would kill me more than hockey.
currently from houston, tx, but spent most of my life in chicago.
i've never had an opportunity to just get this out... so i apologize for the long-windedness in advance... .
i spent the first 17 years of my life in a jw home, then the real world caught up to me.
Welcome. Loved your dream of working for a sports team. Most parents would have been super proud of that dream.
this may have been talked about already, but i didn't see anything.
i was doing some research and keep seeing ole charley's name on this list.
it does make sense though, the more i think about it......
My JW mum believed in the Illumanti since the 1970s. She was told by elders to shut up about it, cuz she was running ahead of the Borg. Listen to John Todd.
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