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  Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.

  by Witness 007 in

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  lindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..

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  And, he gets his 50 virgins in Heaven . . . . inspiring more Islamic terrorists wack-a-doodles.

  I knew nothing/very little about Islam on September 10, 2001. Only, that Cat Stevens joined it and you couldn't make fun of Allah, not even in a cartoon. I wish I was still as nieve about it and that all of these things didn't occur.

  I understand why President Obama does drone attacks that killed innocent people, and why the CIA did its interrogation methods on caught terrorists. I don't mind either. And, I would be the victim in either of these if it saved any of you.
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  After Six Months of Hiatus, I can tell you the Watchtower is Starting to Crumble Faster than you think!

  by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

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  i took a hiatus from jwn because the wall started to collapse because i lost several people ive known almost my entire life.

  these were people i thought would never die, the lies told by the watchtower is unforgivable!

  there was a party i attended keeping a low profile while documenting what was said.

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  I think the Governing Body wants to be jailed for not following court orders to give an out-of-court deposition. The JW brass are going to try to state that as religious leaders in another state, they had nothing to do with the crime that occurred. But, this is a false belief becuase these are civil cases. And, in civil cases, discovery can be pretty broad and wide. The trial court judge has discretion to discern who is and who is not within discovery of evidence's reach. Further, as the head men to this organization with a history of sexual abuse, I would see that asking the religious leader(s) about the policies and procedures they set down would be of value to both sides. Thus, I believe this is why the court judges have been ordering Losch to give out-of-court depositions in preparation of trial.

  Or, I think the Governing Body does not want to testify becuase they are invovled in setting this policy. Anything the Governing Body says in a civil court deposition, can be held against them as a prior statement in a criminal proceeding. Yes, the Governing Body (and all elders, ms) can be held criminally liable for the sexual abuse under an accessory-to-the-crime/aiding and abetting type theory if they can be linked.

  Or, I think the Governing Body really thinks that the End is near. They are either going to die or let Jehober kill the worldly judicial systems and attorneys who persecute the WTS. Naaaaaaahhhhh, can't be right. Why? The WTS is building new buildings that are going to last 100+ years.

  My $.02.

  Skeeter
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  Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

  by cultBgone in

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  i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

  i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

  did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

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  "Guns a blazing" works if the JWs won't stop contacting you (but you want them too).
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  Just quit quietly - the law is on your side!

  by Ajax in

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  freedon of religion guarantees any individual the legal right to abandon any religion at any time for any reason.. if you are a citizen of a country which champions human rights, then your government doesn t care what religion you join, but they will uphold your freedom to join it, without interference, coercion or persecution.

  your countries human rights legislation will conversely uphold your rights when it comes time to abandon any religion you so choose.

  those (elders) who incite others interfere, coerce or persecute those who have left will be in transgression of the human rights statutes.. a person is only obligated to ecclesiastic law if he exposes himself to it or transgressed it while still a member of a religious community.. when your time comes to abandon the jw-wt cult, do it while still in good standing, be proactive - be decisive -put it in writing!..and do it before the hounders set sights on you.. write a card or letter with as much or as little explanation as you one day might wish to share with pharisees and lawyers.. take this card to a notary public to have your signature witnessed and have the writing overstamped in several places with the date.

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  In the US, the ability to stand in court depends on what state you live in AND what actions the cult takes against you.

  In Bear v. Mennonite, Pennslyvania courts found that immediate family can't disown. Thus, the WTS doesn't allow parents to abandoned underaged children.

  In Wollersheim v. Church of Scientology, California courts found that the church can't financially break an ex-member. There, the church told ex-members to not pay their invoices to Mr. Wollersheim. The church also sent Mr. Wollersheim a revised bill, undoing his discount for their bio-feedback machine sessions (called auditing).

  That being said, JWs have carefully done their disfellowshipping. They don't announce the reason (to avoid a libel lawsuit) and contend that the individual members have a right to not associate with whoever they want to, and don't advocate married people and/or children be required to be ousted from the house. Rather, it's all "individual choice." WTS Legal, baby.
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  After Six Months of Hiatus, I can tell you the Watchtower is Starting to Crumble Faster than you think!

  by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

  1. watchtower
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  i took a hiatus from jwn because the wall started to collapse because i lost several people ive known almost my entire life.

  these were people i thought would never die, the lies told by the watchtower is unforgivable!

  there was a party i attended keeping a low profile while documenting what was said.

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  The socialogical/psychological definition of a cult is whether or not it follows many aspeccts of the BITE model of mind control. To that, I would say that Mormons are a cult. Ex-Mormons will attest to it, and make up a large portion of self-help cult exit groups like Internaional Cultic Studies Association.
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  About the ten plagues in Egypt

  by runForever in

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  2. beliefs

  alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.

  but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.

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  Why does a perfect God, who has the mental ability to create the universe and everything in it, need for us to live in fear of him, kill our first born child, etc? What type of perfect God is this?

  And, thank you CrazyGuy. You saved me some typing.
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  Couple questions....like if JW's not the right way then what is?

  by world in

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  new member here so don't attack :d here is a couple questions i have been contemplating lately.. .

  if jw isn't the right religion, then which one is?

  or is it basically believe in god, the bible and you'll be fine?.

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  Welcome to a new part of your spiritual journey.

  I am not going to answer any of your questions. I don't know the ultimate "black & white" answer. I will tell you what I've found out. Those who t claim to speak of absolute authority and knowledge on things in another world, cause the most harm to others who obey them. Those who don't pretend to know every answer to another world, do not cause such harm.

  Skeeter

  p.s. I do disagree with you that the Faithful and Discreet Slave who acts as Jehovah's direct communication with mankind since 1914, has always been a panacea of racial harmony. http://www.freeminds.org/african/discrimination.htm
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  Top 10 Signs that Jehovah's Witnesses Want to Disfellowship You:

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i've posted these years ago and was reminiscing, so i thought i would share the laugh with you again.. top 10 signs that jehovah's witnesses want to disfellowship you:.

  10. there's two guys in suits staying all night outside your home in a four-door sedan.. 9. an elder you spoke to on the phone calls and asks you to repeat what you said the other day, but asks you to speak slowly and clearly.. 8. suddenly, jw friends stop by and ask an awful lot of the same questions.. 7. your laptop computer was moved, left on, or is missing.. 6. you left your car unlocked, it was thoroughly searched by someone but absolutely nothing is missing including your gps which was searched too.. 5. your boss asks if you are in trouble with the law or someone, stating some really polite men were asking about you and left some "tracts.".

  4. someone picked up the cigarette butts around your back porch.. 3. the bartender at your favorite nightspot asks if you have ever before seen the guys in the corner booth that have been ordering "cokes" all evening and pulling out a camera everytime you order a beer.. 2. you receive registered mail and you already served on a jury this year.. 1. your jw mother who finally had accepted that you will never go back starts begging you to either go back to the kingdom hall or move with no forwarding address.. .

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  Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

  by kneehighmiah in

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  the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

  but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

  i was talking to a jw last night.

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  I know a JW sister who is attractive for her age, never married, likes arts & crafts, and children. She WILL NOT marry a JW man. She won't marry a worldly man. She really fears that all JW men are wife beaters, rapists, . . . or, at a bare minimum, ego-maniac roosters who she doesn't want to submit to.
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  JWs say, "They don't judge"

  by skeeter1 in

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  2. experiences

  what is up with jws?

  lately, i've heard this line, "we don't judge .

  but, doesn't everyone judge?

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  What is up with JWs? Lately, I've heard this line, "We don't judge . . "

  But, doesn't everyone judge? Honest. This is an excerpt from Brian Berry, who is being honest.

  "january 20, 2014 by brian berry leave a comment

  Nobody likes that statement. But it’s true. Try as you may to NOT judge others, you WILL do it. I do it. We ALL DO IT all the time. Guaranteed.

  • body weight, shape, gender, age (so and so is fat cuz of this habit)
  • socioeconomic status (that guy drives that car cuz he’s a “rollin’ in it”)
  • religion or faith (only a fool would believe such and such)
  • job (I shoulda known… that’s surely why they behave like this)
  • passions (only xyz kind of people like to do that)
  • hobbies (because they do this, abc is true of them)

  And those are just a few of the judgements we make every day. Some are spoken. Some are merely thought. Some directly affect our actions and some are so subconscious and ingrained in us that they shape us in ways too subtle to identify directly."

  And, when a JW puts on their guilt trips, aren't they/WTS judging?

  "We've missed you at the meeting." (Judging, you should be at the meetings.)

  "True Christians" (Judging, this is the standard you must attain, or be deemed a non-Christian).

  Oh, but they don't judge . . . .. . .