Dennis Rodman is in a mental hospital. Now, can he stay there indefinately?
skeeter1
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NKTV shows Dennis Rodman and Kim Jong-eun and Dennis's Badass Vodka
by fulltimestudent inin the video clip dennis meets kim jong-eun shows him a display of his vodka and introduces the two teams at the basketball match.. its unclear in the video whether rodman is offering a gift to jong-eun or is selling his vodka to nk.
if he's selling it - its a violation of us.
law.
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Death Rituals . . . which do you prefer?
by skeeter1 ini was listening to dr. radio.
a lady mortician was on.
it was morbid, but wanted to share what she said.
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skeeter1
I was listening to Dr. Radio. A lady mortician was on. It was morbid, but wanted to share what she said. She also shared some of the laws that regulate the mortician practice. I was not able to listen to the whole program.
The open casket/embalmning a body funeral is a US/Canada thing. It isn't worldwide! (Guess I'm a dumb American cuz I didn't know that). It started in the Civil War. The train conductors wouldn't transport a dead soldier back up north. So, embalming became the norm. To embalm, a complete bloodletting is done. If the body had an autopsy, then it takes alot longer becuase things were severed. Then, a solution is put in. This solution keeps the natural bacteria from eating its way out of the body, by fixing the cell's protiens. This embalming takes 4 to 8+ hours, depending on the size, condition of the body.
The cremation. Super hot oven. Takes an hour or two for the body to burn. Depends on the size. What is left is inorganic bone matter. By law, these bones have to be ground to a fluffy white powder. The mortician is not allowed to give you the real "bones" by law.
Hindu funerals are not allowed in the US. These funerals are an open air burning of the body, with the bone fragments sent down a river. This has meaning of how the soul is transported to the next life/heavens. It struck me as odd that our laws forbid this practice! Hindu's are disenfranchised. I guess it would be strange to see a body burning up on a hill, but I'd think that there would be a discreet place where this could be done throughout the US!
Natural burial, without embalming. Cloth around the body and put in a deep grave. How it's done in many other parts of the world for centuries. Allows the body to return to earth the most naturally. Your bacteria live on. Alot cheaper, but can't be done in many places! She was saying that in many places, you have to own 5+ acres and then have to check your state/local ordinances.
I was for cremation. Definately, not for embalming. I'll have to explore this more.
Skeeter
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Intenational DC in Seattle
by tresdecu inanyone here being forced to go to the int dc in sea.
it is july 4-6 at university of wa stadium.
my wife unfortunately just booked airfare to sea yesterday.
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skeeter1
Seattle has alot of sightseeing. I'd totally ditch the convention! Seattle & I connected a long time ago.
Mount Rainier - Paradise lodge Alot of hiking and early july is just glorious. Glaciers, meadows, a real trip to Paradise. As close as it gets. A must see for JWs & ex-JWs.
Mount St. Helens - Proof that earthquakes & pestalences are close. This is the MUST SEE. It will blow your mind. A must see for JWs & ex-JWs.
Olympic Penninsula - Hurricane Ridge. Look at the internet for pictures. Like "A Sound of Music"! Then, there is a beautiful rain forrest on the other side of the park. Spectacular beaches. Driftwood on Steroids!
Downtown Seattle - Fish Markets, people watching, ferris wheel, cruise ships going to Alaska. Just a neat place.
Rent a car. But, rent it just outside the airport. Take a $30 cab ride to the rental place. You can return the rental to the airport. You will save a bundle that way.
Totally go! But, totally ditch the convention.
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JW Family Suicide
by Emery inabsolutely terrible,.
http://www.thestate.com/2014/01/15/3208551/2-adults-2-children-dead-in-apparent.html.
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skeeter1
Sad. Very sad. I wonder if the elders tried to help in their "trained" way?
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April 2014 WT is up, more attacks on career and unbelieving family!
by EndofMysteries inhere are some highlights from the magazine.
the first article, "imitate the faith of moses", teaches how moses didn't remain in pharohs court, they then skillfully spin getting a decent paying job and career as equaling "enjoyment of sin", and how those who have "enjoyment of sin" will die at armageddon with everyone else who enjoys their job.
here are some quotes from the article.... "when tempted to engage in sinful conduct, ask, what future do i want for myself?....
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skeeter1
Hope my sister sees this article. She loved ballet when she was a wee little kid, and apparantly caught the eye of a ballet teacher who even offered her free ballet classes. She had super rarely good feet. Mum refused ballet classes because of strong devotion to JW. 55 years later, mom is dead and not being able to even do ballet is a super sore spot with my sister today.
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Well my JW elder dad has lost his job...
by BU2B inas a little background, my dad became a jw in 1980 i think, went to bethel, married my mom in 86' went back for another year and then i came along... he worked in the auto repair shop at bethel while he was there, and upon leaving, continued working in this field.
my whole life they have been the type of jw parents that tell you how you will never get to high school, never graduate it, never get married in this system, never have children in this system etc.. i say this to illustrate the end is just around the corner attitude they have always had, probably because they fully bought/buy into the hype at the conventions/wt articles.
my father has no plan in place for retirement, and he is physically slowing down doing such hard laborious work.
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skeeter1
To thine own self be true, and thou can't be false to any man. Shakespeare. Hamlet, I think.
What kind of quality relationship do you have if he's accepting only an illusion of BU2B?
Who announces to hardcore JW parents? I did. Oh, there was a blow up initially when I rejected the GEneration change in the late 90's (but hadn't attended since the 80's). "How could you, Skeeter?" "All we taught you?" That went on for a few weeks. Then, the elders and JWs came to the door, sent by my parents. I asked if my parents sent them? They said yes. I told them I wasn't interested and to stop. So, they did. Then, I went total appostate in the mid-2005's. At this point, my dad was guilty, saying that I'd be a JW if he was a better dad. To which I said, 'no, I'd be a JW if it was the true religion. it has nothing to do with your parenting.' Luckily, I was never baptised. So, I have a strained relationship of almost/quasi shunning. But, it's really strained on their end because my relatives have to hold their judgemental tongue. Only if they start on the Troof, do I start in on my side. So, that shuts them up and keeps them shut up now...for years. I am not constrained on my end of how I think about spirituality, what I do, or what I say. So by being me, I have found freedom and peace. I have defined who I am and what I think, as well as the boundaries of my family. They have deal with it. I do have to occassionally deal with their idiocracy, and it reminds me that there are worse things than being shunned. I think to myself that shunning is a blessing. LOL.
But really, perhaps your mother's comments about moving in with you were just a quick reaction to the rug being pulled out from under them. Perhaps it will soon pass, and they will find their own way.
Skeeter
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An incident in Michigan
by Mandette inan article on a jw who died from lack of blood.
family then sued.. .
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skeeter1
Let me get this straight.
1) Seek out doctors who are willing and expert enough to treat the JWs.
2) Sign a waiver to induce the JW friendly doctors do the transplant.
3) Due to no-blood stance, impose risk that the transplant might be a failure (i.e. the organ should have gone to a more suitable candidate).
4) Then, when things go wrong . . . husband sticks by the blood ban.
5) Then, hubbie has the gall to sue the doctors when her blood loss didn't support the organ and she wouldn't get a transplant.
Gee, talk about tying the doctors' hands behind their backs and then kicking them in the groin. I think these doctors (and all doctors) should think twice before accepting a JW patient. And, organ donation should consider the person's refusal to take blood products into the eligibility criteria.
Skeeter
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Are you materialistic?
by Goldiver inwhy, yes i am according to the jws.
this is an topic that has always irked me with the jws.
anyone who had a good paying job and nice things was materialistic.
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skeeter1
I attended a normal church. You know what normal Christianity's take on this is? In a nutshell, each of us is unique. Some have a talent and they use it to make money. People benefit from their talent and are willing to pay for it. Others have time. People with a talent for making money, that's great especially if they can donate so the others with time can volunteer. So, imagine this as how a church is run. The people with money build a food bank. The people with time, get local restaurants and stores to donate food, and take the food to the poor.
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Do Wills Ever Affect Shunning?
by Cold Steel ina man has several sons and daughters who are active jehovah's witnesses.
so was his wife, who died two years ago.
he has since lapsed into apostasy and has been openly critical of the governing body.
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skeeter1
Yes. Theocratic lying would probably trump shunning. They want your money. Honorable JWs would use it for Kingdom interests, like buying a brand new 4 door car. But, there are plenty of greedy JWs. From con-artists, vitamin sellers, . . . . just look at the number of government scammers in the congregation that take assistance in order to pioneer full time in the door-to-door.
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Well, at least this church is upfront and honest about who they are. This sign is a huge advertisement to keep most people from coming inside. Now, the JWs are different. They are sly like a fox. They believe this, but are going to have to indoctrinate someone before this message really comes into play. Organized religion is about controlling the masses, never forget that.