Posts by JackC

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Need help with this..

by JackC in

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hey everyone.

im 35, have been a witness for 30, baptized at 19, married at 22 and now have 3 kids.

my wife and i are leaving and are considering all the options.

JackC

The best idea I've heard was to post letters to the friends and family you really care about before you leave or are announced. Don't go in to detail on why you are leaving, simply say you have concerns and if they want to know, they can contact you. I am a strong believer in giving information only when it's wanted.

Amen to that, we followed the bouncing ball ourselves and would never expect anyone to follow us. JW's are so used to being spoon fed every bit of information that it would defeat the whole purpose of setting someone free if we provided more that a starting point to them. This point is a must in any letter to anyone.

Thanks,

J

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Need help with this..

by JackC in

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friends

hey everyone.

im 35, have been a witness for 30, baptized at 19, married at 22 and now have 3 kids.

my wife and i are leaving and are considering all the options.

JackC

Thanks for the link, I'll be checking that out tonight. I have already registered to vote and have planned a burning this spring of unneeded bound volumes, unless anyone here wants them. I don't know, I think I would always be 'watching my back' if I fade away. If I go to a store it would be nice for anyone with a problem to feel compelled to avoid me, if that makes sense.

Thanks,

J

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Need help with this..

by JackC in

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friends

hey everyone.

im 35, have been a witness for 30, baptized at 19, married at 22 and now have 3 kids.

my wife and i are leaving and are considering all the options.

JackC

See my last post to metatron for a little history.

We have too trained our young ones well, but the are smart, smarter than most adults. My oldest (9) understands the hypocrisy with the UN thing. So going by this we feel making a stand is needed to show them that we are secure behind our principles and that it is love of righteousness that is driving this.

Thanks,

J

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Need help with this..

by JackC in

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friends

hey everyone.

im 35, have been a witness for 30, baptized at 19, married at 22 and now have 3 kids.

my wife and i are leaving and are considering all the options.

JackC

Well, how do I put this. My family is all in the 'truth', but I really would count it a blessing if they wouldn't talk to us, not that they do now. They are one of the most dysfunctional families I've ever seen, no love-loss there. My wife's family: parents and siblings all in, dad's family never in and are extremely supportive (taking us in for Xmas, presents and all) I would have to say that Dad and Mom would be the hardest to get over, maybe. Her oldest brother already shuns us for not going to the KH and he lives 1500 miles away, in fact he came into town to make it a point to shun us. Her other sibs, one follows dad everywhere the other is secretly supportive.

I guess, cut and dry we can live without any of them. But for closure we need to do something even if it is just screaming in the wind.

J

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Need help with this..

by JackC in

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friends

hey everyone.

im 35, have been a witness for 30, baptized at 19, married at 22 and now have 3 kids.

my wife and i are leaving and are considering all the options.

JackC

Hey everyone. Let me first tell you a little about myself. I’m 35, have been ‘a witness’ for 30, baptized at 19, married at 22 and now have 3 kids. My wife and I are leaving and are considering all the options. So I ask this, how did you do it, letter to elders, CO, Society, other? What was in it, main points etc. What were you trying for DF, DA, fade-away and why? Did I miss anything?

We have already sent a letter to the Society asking about the UN/DPI thing, of course no answers. But we did get the finger pointed at us, apparently we have been deceiving ourselves. That’s right we’re not supposed to look at facts and draw our own conclusions, shame, shame, shame. But the elders backed off the apostate talk when we pointed out that we have only talked to them. So we are leaning toward a second letter with a very accusatory theme and let the poor locals have to df us. Make them work.

Anyway thanks for all your input.

J

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My "un"association letter

by AuldSoul in

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the name was suggested by someone who posts here, since it is not really a disassociation letter.

here, for your criticism pleasure, is my "un"association letter..

JackC

My wife and I are drafting our letter as we speak. Still not sure if DF or DA is a better fit for us. I thank you for your posting your letter as well as all our friends comments. We hope to shock and awe some people with ours. Not that it will help, we just want out.

J

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Something I want to tell you apostates

by AuldSoul in

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i love you all!

and that includes the ones who don't even know they're apostates.. auldsoul

JackC

I've finally come home, should be df'ed by mid-Jan. Can't wait, freedom so close.

LOVE YOU TOO.

J

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Do you like Winter?

by JH in

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well, this is the first day of winter.

for all those who love winter snow, ice, slush, slipping and falling, colds and sore throats, frostbite and shoveling, enjoy it,.

so, to all winter lovers, enjoy it !!!!!!

JackC

We never did until we dumped the bOrg. First winter we haven't needed to defrost our toes every Sat & Sun. First winter our kids are getting presents. I'm lovin' winter:)

J

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reading Proclaimers book

by MerryMagdalene in

a very loyal and loving jw requested that i read the book jehovah's witnesses proclaimers of god's kingdom, sincerely confident that it will lay to rest all my objections and convince me this is indeed god's organization to which i must return right away.. ok, i will read it, but only because it's my mother that asked it of me, and she has tried so hard to be tolerant and understanding of where i am coming from as regards my firm stand in not returning.. i thought i would post my notes along the way in case they would be useful to someone else, and if anyone wants to add their own thoughts and notes i would be grateful.

chapter 1--why should jehovah have witnesses?.

since all references to such in the bible are pre-christian and refer to israelites being witnesses that their god, yhwh, is the god, the one god, the only god, and in a contractual relationship with them.

JackC

david2002,

Are you going to repent and confess to the elders for the secret sin of associating with 'apostates' and the df'ed. Until you do this are you not unclean before Jehovah? How can any of your points be vaild if you clearly do not follow all the direction of the Society? This is all or nothing, I am sure your elders would clearly warn you of the dangers we all present and what a dangerous place this is for the faithful, lest you be misled.

J

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just wrapped my first christmas gift...

by in a new york bethel minute in

it was fun!

the only thing that sucked about it was the fact that i had no idea how to wrap a gift... late 20's and i've never wrapped a present before????

hahaha only in the jw faith is that possible!!!

JackC

My wife and I have spent 30+ years with the bOrg. During the past year we have researched and studied more information than in the previous 29 years. Conclusion --- Whack Jobs with no wayout. So we have bought a life time of toys for our three kids (9, 6, 2) they are just plain happy, thankfully they don't appear to be damaged (wish we could say the same).

I hope all are spending this 'pagan holiday' with loved ones that actually care about humanity and their neighbors. Fortunately my wife has Aunts and Cousins that are not JW's and have /are providing a loving, warm environment for us to grow and heal in. We determined, from this, that Xmas is about family and kids, reflecting on the bonds that keep the world sane. How many actually sit around making it a religious event. Few if any in this area (upstate NY).

Enjoy,

J

Oh yeah, not df'ed yet, but can't wait.