Posts by alanv

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WT December 15, 2010

by Designer Stubble in

wt december 15, 2010. snippets from this watchtower are below.

keeping in mind that all articles are written with an agenda, to address problems in the organization or to pave the way for new guidelines, look at what i highlighted.

my conclusions are:.

alanv

Hi DS. I guess you downloaded the latest Watchtower from JW.org.

I had a look at it myself yesterday and actually made mentel note of the things that you have found.

I totally agree with you. The reason they say anything to the sheep is because the sheep are not doing what they should.

Once again they push the point that you must have the right attitude toward the gov body, i e you need to support them wholeheartedly or you will be bird prey at the big A.

I think now that the mags are available to all, that is going to show even more the societies attitude of only they are right, and everybody else is wrong.

I'm sure we will see many more articles commented on in the future.

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PropagandaTechniques Banned??

by FreeAtLast1914 in

i noticed a few days ago that a guy going by the moniker propagandatechniques on youtube was nowhere to be found.

then after a little digging, i saw that his account had been suspended.. he had some good stuff and i generally enjoyed watching his daily rants.. does anyone know what happened to him?.

alanv

Just had a look on youtube and propergander tecniques is there on one video saying that his channel has been closed down by the DMCA. This is the link to their site

http://www.idmca.com/

Also here is propergander tekneeks (note his new spelling) last video?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrz00ityndI

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Service numbers are gone

by Samuel Thorsen in

jw
friends

i just stumbled over the october issue of our kingdom ministry in norwegian.. the service report numbers are no longer printed.

why not?

and do they still print the numbers in your language?.

alanv

I believe that Norways publishers are going up on average 1% per year. Certainly nothing to write home about.

The society have stopped publishing all the figures monthly because there would be a lot of discouragement if they showed the numbers going down. Europe in general is making next to no progress these days, whereas other parts of the earth still show a small increase

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(If you ever were) Was getting DF'ed a relief? Did you lose patience with 'the fade'?

by Sapphy in

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friends

i was wondering about this.. i'm doing a slow fade, i don't want to lose friends and family - but it's frustrating.

wasting time going to meetings etc when my heart and head isn't in it anymore.

it feels like a game played by everyone elses rules but mine.

alanv

There are several ways to fade. Personally I simply stopped going to the meetings and on the odd occasion the elders turned up I just gave a non commital answer. In time they just left me alone. Of course if they new I regularly post on ex JW forums they would soon disfellowship me.

It is hard having to stay under cover as it were, but if you have family in as I have, then I feel it is better not to formally disassosiate yourself

Just my own view.

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'OKM_October_2010_for_Britain_OCRd.pdf'

by fokyc in

by popular request,.

http://www.box.net/shared/zhhrff8yp5.

remember this file is available for preview and/or downloading as you wish,.

alanv

Thanks Fokyc. I missed seeing this KM this month, so thanks for the link

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October KM non-Christian religions

by wannabefree in

i realize that this is pretty much a non-issue, i just found it to be interesting.. as we know, the watchtower often uses a qualifier for christianity by using the term "true christians", which of course jw's know is synonymous with " jehovah's witnesses", all others would be the opposite, or "false christians".. october km, page 2 in the article "new brochure to be offered!

", introducing a november campaign to offer the brochure the bible - what is its message?, mentions in paragraphs one and three people of "non-christian religions", in a sense, isn't the watchtower acknowledging that the opposite of non-christian would be christian religions?.

i just thought this was interesting, even though it isn't meant to be understood that way..

alanv

Hi wannabefree Yes I guess they could have been clearer about it, but all JWs know what they mean.

Any chance of a scan or a link to the October 2010 Kingdon Ministry?

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Some Financial Info Regarding the London Branch.

by Bangalore in

alanv

I thought it was interesting that the UK bethel workload of printing has gone up24%

They are now doing the printing for Denmark, Portugal, Holland and Spain.

All countries with little or no growth. Those Bethel boys must get depressed knowing all their work has actually barely made any difference to the number of publishers in those countries.

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Some Financial Info Regarding the London Branch.

by Bangalore in

alanv

Thanks for that Bangalore. Looks like they are still making a good profit here in Britain.

Do you have any recent figures for USA?

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Weird Fred Franz pics (other presidents also)

by Joliette in

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friends

i was reading crisis of conscience and i noticed a really odd pic of fred franz on page 90 (looks like he was sitting down?

) in the picture, and i knew i had seen him somewhere before (watchtower) or yearbook, and i always wondered why the organization took so many pictures of the presidents back then...if they didnt want the emphasis put on men but on the organization??

why was this?

alanv

Hi Joliette, I guess the answer is that for a long time JWs were on a learning curve. There are loads of things they don't do now that they did a few decades ago. I'm sure the legal department goes through everything now with a fine tooth comb just to make sure nothing will come back to them and bite them in the ass. It's taken them 130 years but nowdays it is only on odd occasions they say something really dumb.

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They can't understand how I can be so inactive and yet such a good guy.

by Wasanelder Once in

i've been faded, inactive, for 6 years or more and the witnesses i know are astounded that i'm not in trouble.

they don't say it but its on their minds.

i do the things thier "brothers and sisters" don't do towards them.

alanv

I faded about 15 years ago but still see witnesses every now and then. If they ever ask how I am doing I am always very positive about my life, bearing in mind that they would love to hear mesay that you are having a terrible life. The best thing I think is that the people who care for me now are totally genuine friends and family, unlike the witnessses who were only kind and loving toward me if I agreed with their religion totally.