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  Im a newbie, looking for courage to sever the ties with JWs...help?

  by Pams girl in

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  hi, im paula from wales, uk.

  ive been studying for 6 years with jws.

  they came at a vulnerable time, my best friend died in a car accident when she was 6 monthes pregnant, i was drinking heavily, no work due to agoraphobia, meddling with the ouija board etc....i felt they helped me, cured me if you like.

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  alanv

  Hi Pams girl,

  Welcome to the site. I am so sorry for all you have been through. I too neglected my family, because we were taught to always put the organisation first. It really was not your fault that you could not be with your mother at the end of her life. You were a victim as are so many others to this organisation.

  I have been out 15 years now, and boy I am so glad I left. You will find there is so much they have not told you, and now thanks to the internet you will be able to see for yourself the societies terrible history and read about the thousands that have died because of their false promises.

  Please stick around here, you will get as much help and support as you want. Many on here will have gone through much of what you had to endure and they can tell you how they have been able to restart their lives again.

  I wish you well, and thanks for sharing.
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  Help w/ Bible Teach ch 9 section "Major Developments of the Last Days"

  by InterestedOne in

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  i'm in ch 9 in my study, and we will go over the section "major developments of the last days" (pars 6-9) next week.

  although i don't see anything special in pars 7-9, i think par 6 allows the jw's to strike a chord with people, and i was wondering if anyone could help me with how to respond to it.

  they are able to quote real figures in that paragraph such as "three times as many people fell victim to war in [the 20th] century as in all the wars from the first century ad to 1899.".

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  Since the end of world war 2 there has been relative peace. Maybe ask him what time period he thinks was a good time to live in, then research it yourself and almost definately it will be worse than the time we are living in now.

  Also why does he thiunk there was such a population explosion in the 20th century. It is because people are living longer, less child deaths, and certainly since 1945 less people dying through wars.
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  Last US veteran from WW 1 has died. Frank Buckles, 110

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-buckles-20110228,0,405865.story .

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  alanv

  I know a lady who is the oldest living person in U K. She is 112 next week. She has a poster that says 'I intend to live forever. So far so good!'
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  Update on my life since I left

  by strawberry cake in

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  2. experiences

  i used to post here a lot a few years ago.

  this forum helped me out of the organisation with my husband and 3 boys.. we are now all more or less out and very happy.. me my husband and my youngest left almost instantly we realised the lie.

  my middle son gave us a little grief at first and then left when he understood what were were saying.

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  alanv

  When I was in it, the social thing was very high on my list for staying in. There is no doubt about it, you can have a very good social life in the org.

  Thankfully I and many others did not let that keep us in, and although I have less friends now, I know the ones I have got are not going to drop me if I say something they do not agree with
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  Thought Control - Yes, the JW's Use It Too

  by Crisis of Conscience in

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  the following highlighted info is taken from pg.

  62 of steve hassan's combatting cult mind control:.

  if information transmitted to a cult member is perceived as an attack on either the leader, the doctrine, or the group, a hostile wall goes up.

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  alanv

  I remember even after I had made my decision not to go any more to the hall, I felt really bad about reading the so called apostate book 'Crisis of conscience'. Once I had read it I was so pleased that I had. From that point on, there was no stopping me. I exposed the society when ever I got the chance.
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  Kingdom Interlinear = apostate literature?

  by brotherunsure in

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  2. bible

  has anybody else come across jdubs that have never heard of the kingdom interlinear translation?

  i noticed this artcle http://www.soundwitness.org/jw/kit_part1.htm and i've found when i asked witnesses about it some never heard of it and other's had heard of it but didn't have one and didn't know if they were still in print and one got all weird and suspicious saying "well what do you want it for?".

  when i called the watchtower and asked if it was still in print the guy had to put me on hold and look it up somewhere, he didn't know off the top of his head.

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  I was just wondering if anyone knows the reason why they produced the Interlinea. Was it just because the Diaglot did not have the name Jehovah, or was it more than that?
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  What Does The GB Really Believe?

  by Murray Smith in

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  a speculative question i suppose .

  but i am quite intrigued by this.. .

  a witness for 20-odd years .

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  alanv

  Ray Franz who was on the governing body but left the organisation, felt that they did believe in what they were saying and doing but it was all about 'the organisaton' They feel there has to be loads of rules and regulations to protect the org. This is very different to the what the bible teaches
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  facebook will be the end of me!!

  by finallyfree! in

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  so lately ive been getting friend requests from jw's who i knew from before i faded.

  now my mom is on facebook and just sent a friend request, ya cant ignore your moms request...lol!.

  i will accept her and this will probably be the end to my fade.

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  Good for you finally free. As long as you are sure you do not mind JWs knowing your life now. Remember Facebook pictures may show that you should be disfellowshipped. You need to be sure that is ok with you
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  CASUALTY - BBC TV

  by St George of England in

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  did not see this as i cannot stand the programme personally, but tonight's episode was about a jw mother who died after refusing a blood transfusion.

  they apparently dealt with all the disfellowshipping, shunning etc.

  sounds like good advertising!.

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  I just finished watching it. The jw bit was just part of the storyline.It was about a witness couple and the wife was pregnant. She was admitted to the emergency dept and at first said no blood when they told her she would probably die without it. She apparantly changed her mind at the end, although we did not see that happen. Her husband was busy praying the Lords prayer which seemed to fall on deaf ears, as she died before she had the transfusion. But the good news is the baby survived and the husband allowed the staff to make the decision to give it a transfusion he needed to survive.
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  Is the Internet killing our sense of EMPATHY?

  by brotherdan in

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  this is a pretty interesting article on cnn.

  i can see how we are being desensitized to others feelings.

  there are things that i've said to others online that i never would say to someone face to face.

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  alanv

  I find it good to post online as I have more time to think what I want to say. Sometimes on the phone or face to face it is easy to blurt out something that I later MAY regret.

  For instance I just emailed a friend to say how sorry I was that her brother had just died. I was able to say exactly what I wanted to her rather than saying something inapproriate in a face to face or on the phone.