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  Out of the mouths of babes. 1983 yearbook.

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  1983 yearbook p11.. the puerto rico branch tells about an interested person who was studying with a special pioneer but whose husband showed no desire to do so.

  one day his five-year-old daughter said, "daddy, i want to grow up so i can be baptized.

  " later she said, "daddy, please study the bible with jehovah's witnesses so that you will not be destroyed and then you can be with us in paradise.

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  alanv

  Just shows the indoctrination that kids get.

  Clearly the five year old new next to nothing about the org. accept that she had been told that only JWs will not be destroyed by God.
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  easy work today talking to 6 jw's

  by JunkYardDog in

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  i asked for the mag's then asked them what in the world makes them jw's think they are jehovahs people?

  they said the preaching work.

  i had a field day exposing the false prophices of the preaching work done by the wts/ jw's just in the last 50 years.

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  alanv

  It is actually amazing that the sheep have no idea about loads of things that have happened in the JW history.

  I find that witnesses that comment on JW forums, know much more than the average witness. And of course these forums help ex witnesses as well, as we tell each other some of the crazy things we never new about when we were in the org.
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  Have the Watchtower Society ever printed that Satan had a part in removing God's name from the Bible?

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  as per the title.

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  i've had a quick look but cannot find any quotes specifically blaming sate..

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  alanv

  I'm sure I have read somewhere that they said that. I will try to find out.
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  everyone read this so U all can help make my point

  by TheLoveDoctor in

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  when reading all of the variety of toppics on this site it appears by the lack of responses that some dont really care about your subject?

  or they just cant find the word to say, or they mosly like reading but not commenting.

  and some subjects ive read that have had many comments compared to others are just plane stupid as hell.

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  alanv

  Hi Love doctor

  There are all sorts of reasons why sometimes we do not post.

  Some new threads are downright boring, (not very often)

  Other times we may have recently had a thread on the same subject.

  For some maybe they dont not have the time to always post a comment.

  Other times the topic is supeseeded by a new topic, and not all posters know you can still post in the archive section of the site

  Probably other reasons but that will do for now. I need a coffee.
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  who, and what age is the youngest member of the GB of JW,s as of 2011

  by the max in

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  alanv

  Since the partakers at the memorial keeps going up, and the sheep are ok with that, I don't think they would care if another realatively young man joined the governing body. They are totally indoctrinated, that anything the org does is OK with them
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  As The Governing Body Tightens its Grip...

  by passwordprotected in

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  2. beliefs

  two and a half years ago i predicted that the governing body was going to have to tighten its grip on the rank and file witnesses.. "it's time to get in the compound, brothers and sisters...." it's classic sleight of hand.

  distract your audience.

  pull off the trick.

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  alanv

  Everything you say is true, including that there have been particular times in the past when they have tightened the screws.

  However they have made some things easier for witnesses. Remember it used to be five, one hour meetings a week. That has been reduced now quite a lot . Pioneers used to have to spend 150, and 100 hours a month as special and regular pioneers. District assemblies used to be four days, they are now three. Circuit Assemblies used to include Friday evening. Now they just go for two days.

  Now having done all that, they have realized they have given witnesses too much wriggle room. So they are tightening their grip.

  As has been said, they are now demonising the internet, ex witnesses, Facebook and other forums and blogs, repeating again that further education can seriously damage your spiritual health. And the biggest thing they are now pushing, is the unquestioning obediance to the governing body.

  As we have said, these things go in cycles, and the present cycle is to scare the sheep into submission
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  please deconstruct John 3:16 - our memorial scripture

  by Curtains in

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  our memorial talk focused on john 3.16 - the exercise aspect of exercising faith.

  the speaker began by saying 'this evening whilst we are all gathered together many are exercising in the park - they are working hard - jogging and running.

  shouldn't we work that hard when we are exercising our faith'.

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  Thanks still thinking and curtains. That is unbelievable. Especially if their own interlinear says believing
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  Rant Against the Borg HERE! NOW!

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  do you have a particular set of issues that really honk you off about the borg?.

  would you like to just vent sometimes without having to engage in a drawn out discussion of the topic?.

  are you reluctant to post your rant on someone else's thread for fear of hijacking it?.

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  And they wander why we can't just move on, after spending say 20 years of our life in it. It is not that easy.
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  Apostasy vs. Heresy

  by Quendi in

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  2. bible

  hello friends,.

  the july 15, 2011 issue of the watchtower and its hard line on "shunning" of the disfellowshipped has generated much discussion on this board.

  i thought i would start a thread on a related issue because i would appreciate getting your thoughts on this.. we all know how liberally the wts uses its favorite curse word, apostate, to describe those who have left the organization.

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  alanv

  In fact all JWs that came from another religion can be described as apostates. That is what it means, to leave your religion for another one.

  It's good to remind JWs of that now and again.
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  How many times has the end of the world been prophesied?

  by jean-luc picard in

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  2. beliefs

  i found this page very informative.. .

  i dont know if it has already been posted.. .

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm.

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  alanv

  Hey Jean thanks for that. I have never seen those sites before. Especially the first one is good, as it is not just having a go at the society.

  It is clearly about anyone who got it wrong over the years.