We are having a discussion on the Topix website about one of the points she made about very few people dying these days from blood complications after a transfusion.
Posts by alanv
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18March 2012 Interview with Dr. Fridey, CEO of the Red Cross headquarters in Pomona, Calif.
by Lady Lee inpeople need to see this video.
if you have any lingering doubts about those who critisize ex-jws who try to refute the jw stance on blood transfusions or are unsure where you stand on the issue regarding accepting or even donating blood this is a must see.
it is long but worth watching.. now if only i can figure out how to embed it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzzotomct38 .
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Witness Lurkers- A Simple Question
by mrquik inas you are willing to sacrifice not only your life but the lives of your loved ones, what concrete proof do you have that you are the one true religion, led by jesus christ & guided by jehovah's holy spirit?.
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alanv
Over half the world have not even heard the JW message.
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How Does The Message Attract New Converts In Field Service?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis in.
what attracts new ones into the jw fold these days, the message, the friends, someone to listen to their problems, a personal relationship with god?
what?.
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alanv
There will always be ones who are at a low point in their lives. If a JW calls on that person, they can tell the person that all will be ok very soon if blah, blah, blar.
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How many new baptisms are family members?
by ilikecheese ini don't know if there is any hard evidence on this or anything, but about how many of the new baptisms each year are children of jws, other family members of jws, or acquaintances?
how many are actual new people who have no ties to them at all?
it seems like the largest number are kids who are sort of pressured into it.
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alanv
I really wish the society would compile those figures. Unfortunately I guess that will never happen as the sheep would then see how useless the door to door work is.
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Biblical precedence for opposing viewpoints within the Congregation
by Momma-Tossed-Me inoften the wtbts uses the gathering of older men in jerusalem as support for the organizational structure used today.
this essay will examine the validity of that claim by way of logic and reason.. .
logically an argument could be formulated that this meeting was not a regularly scheduled or organized group that held weekly or monthly meetings to discuss things related to the early christian congregation but that is a thesis to be explored on another day.. .
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alanv
Yes thank momma, really interesting. It just shows how all of us should read an account properly and all the way through, not just pick out odd verses as the gov body have done.
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Disfellowshipped man tries to poison Elder and his family.
by jemba inthis story happened in my hometown in a hall i helped build years ago.
its no wonder this sort of thing happens, this guy was probably desperate and vunerable when he got df'd.
no pity for this stupid elder, but the poor kids.
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alanv
I can understand How the man got enraged with the elder, but there is no excuse to poison the family. What he did was 10 times worse than what happened to him. After all he did not have to get disfellowshipped, all it needed was a bit of repentance and he would have stayed a member of the cong. Then if he really waned to get out, he could simply just fade, and at least that way people will still talk to you if that is what he wanted.
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Blood transfusion DF/DA
by allyouneedislove ini was reading the following page:.
http://ajwrb.org/currentwtpolicy/callingsociety.htm.
can a jw still be df or da for taking a blood transfusion, if they are not "repentant"?.
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alanv
My understanding is that it is still against the religion. If it is not covered by the various changes they have made to the blood doctrine, then a person is actually disassociating themselves. They are in effect saying I am no longer willing to go along with what God's organisation says. Particularly if they were baptised after 1985 when the baptism question included ' are you happy to be called a JW and work along with the spirit led organisation.'
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In veiw of the future prospects for the remnant of the 144000 still living,wouldnt you think they would have a greater role in the running of a congregation ?
by smiddy ini just commented on another thread about the 144000 and thought it deserved a thread of it`s own seeing how important their appointment is .. those who are selected to rule with christ jesus in heaven are given immortality.
if you or i were selected to survive armaggedon we would not be given immortality , so obviously they are considered a cut above the rest of humanity.. so my question is ,why doesnt jehovah`s spirit directed organization on earth give these people the respect and dignity that jehovah god is going to bestow on them in the future , while they are yet present on earth , instead of ignoring them , and treating them as a lesser class of person than a pioneer ,ministerial servant, or elder.. and suggesting they may be influenced by prior beleifs or have mental problems doesnt say much for their bible education instruction , after all these are dedicated baptized publishers who are counted as the annointed remnant.. smiddy.
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alanv
I know the society have said they do not keep track of proffesed members of the anointed, but surely they can get or have already the imformation from the publishers record card. Ceryainly a circuit overseer would know the names so why not the organisation.
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Huxley on how to control followers
by jwfacts ini was just directed to a great website lettersofnote.com that contains many famous and interesting letters.
one is from huxley to orwell, and displayed at 1984 vs brave new world.
huxley made the following prediction in 1949 on how a government can control its followers, which seems to align with the methods used by the governing body.. .
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alanv
They are good techniques, but even the Watchtower org can't hold on to it's youngsters once they come of age. You may remember that it is said that JWs have one of the most moblie religions. Meaning that most who are brought up according to the organisations rules , leave sometime in their adulthood.
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WTF Jesus doing last 98 years?
by Evolutionary inhey, i left when i was 19 about 21 years ago over evolution.
dad encouraged me to look up the references in _life: how did it get here?
by creation or evolution?_.
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alanv
You could also ask the question what on earth are 144000 going to be doing during the 1000 year reign.
If God is the creator he can do anything in the blink of an eyelid. No need to have 144000 little helpers.