For me it was the Revelation book. I was a book study conductor and as I was going through the book with the sheep I was realizing there really was so much in there that was complete rubbish. Beginning of the end for me.
Posts by alanv
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53What piece of WT literature is worth holding onto, or have you kept? Why?
by losingit ini have basically thrown away all of my bound volumes and loose wt and awake magazines.
i kept some bpoks, the insight to the scriptures, god's love, the reasoning book, and daniel's prophecies (this was my favorite) .
i held onto insight to the scriptures after reading some of ray franz's book, crisis of conscience.
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Any fallout from the "human apostates" convention talk yet?
by cedars inhi folks.
i'm just curious as to whether anyone is experiencing any repercussions following the "human apostates" talk on the saturday of the district convention?.
my relatives will be attending soon, which makes me anxious.
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alanv
Hi Cedars I wrote somewhere recently that my JW son and his wife have moved out of the house I rent them and moved into private renting where they are paying 75% more rent. Has a lot to do with not having to rely on me to provide them with housing. It started when I tried to talk to them about the July 2013 new light Watchtower. After they here the talk they will be convinced they did the right thing moving out lol
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Why do some of the YouTube video creators remind current Jws that they should not be,..
by notjustyet in....watching their videos?.
i am a subscriber to quite a few of the ex jw youtube channels and i enjoy many of the videos.
i do cringe a bit when i hear the person in the video remind the jw that they "should not be watching these videos as it is against the rules and council of the wtbts, gb, elders taking the lead, etc,..".
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alanv
I think it is a valid point that we don't want to be reminding them that they should not be watching the video. Instead maybe tell them you appreciate them taking the time to view the video and hope it will help them to make a decision on their future.
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August 2013 Kingdom Ministry
by Simplicity inhas the aug 2013 okm come out already?
it normally is available for dl around the 10th of the month but i haven't seen it posted.
can anybody please pm it to me if available?
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alanv
Atlantis we need you. We need our spiritual food for this month. Thanks in expectation
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Oblivious to Father's Day
by Nosferatu inhey all, it's been a long time since i posted here.
life's been having its ups and downs, but that's a subject for another day.. anyway, this year i thought it would actually be nice to spend father's day with my kid.
his mom usually has him for sundays and for past father's days, i didn't mind because he was still kinda too young to realize what the day was about.
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alanv
To be honest as a loving dad you dont have to have a special day with your son, you can just have him as much as possable during the year. I'm sure it does not matter to him whether its fathers day or any other day, he will be pleased to spend time with you any time.
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Why send Satan down to earth in 1914 - didn't we have enough problems?
by Xanthippe ini was just reading an old watchtower quote on another thread, he was quoting it straight from jw.org by the way, and i was astonished to be reminded of this teaching.
why would a loving god crown his son king and then send satan and hordes of demons to our planet?.
we live in a huge universe, why send these monsters here?
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alanv
I seem to remember the society saying something like, Satan started world war 1 so nobody on earth would realize the Kingdom had been born in heaven at that time lol
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1914 gone??
by Crazyguy innow that russell is no longer important do you think this is designed so they can drop 1914??
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alanv
There is no question in my mind that they will carry on ditching 1914. Thy have ditched Russell very easily, and that was a pretty big step, yet the sheep just accepted it. As has been pointed out they have been talking about it less and less over the past years. JWs will accept whatever they are told provided the gov body state it as fact (which they always do)
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How did disfellowshipping work before the elder arrangement?
by slimboyfat inas i understand it disfellowshipping started in the early 1950s, but the elder arrangement didn't come i to place until 1971. nowadays three elders discuss and then vote whether the disfellowship.
but what did they do when congregations didn't have a body of elders.
who decided when to disfellowship then?
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alanv
I joined up in 1968 and seem to remember that there was a congregation servant who was chairman and two other 'servants' who joined him in discussing whether someone should be disfellowshipped or not. Very similar to today in fact. Certainly behind closed doors.
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God Of Love Kills Millions Of Innocent Babies And Pregnant Women For Not Knowing Him At Armageddon Yet Still Condemns Abortion?
by frankiespeakin indo you see the contridictions of the governing body's made up scenerio?.
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alanv
There are masses of contradictions when you start examining what the gov body say. It's just another nail in their coffins
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FAQ - from the official web site "Do You Shun Former Members of Your Religion"?
by therevealer inthose who were baptized as jehovah's witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.
in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest..
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alanv
If you leave the org and say nothing to anyone about why you left you will probably not be shunned. But once witnesses ask you why you no longer attend meetings and you then procceed to tell them, you will be shunned by those witnesses after that. And if you actually dare to start the converstion as to why you left, then you will be shunned by all witnesses that know you have done that.