Posts by Grammy

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After 18months I get called on - Elder confrontation.

by wozadummy in

firstly i will acknowlege this may be long please bear with me.. not all written here will be exactly in the sequence we discussed things, for we talked for some time at my door.. he was my former book study conductor and i still think he has good qualities that i see lacking in so many elders, but as you will see the wts mindset is like concrete in his mind.. i am writing this not to brag but to emphasise and highlight the disgusting mindset of the wts and it's leaders and members.. here we go - some may know that my wife was molested as a child for some time by her elder father.

when we married some years ago it did not take long for her to open up to me about what happened to her and needless to say we struggled with this, and eventually told the local elders what happened to her as a child.. we only went this path after she tried to get him to confess ,which he did'nt and so we followed what we thought at the time was the theocratic way and went to the elders ,and please note we sincerely wanted him to repent so he could get everlasting life.

he denied all and so followed years of heartache for my wife along with her family tormenting her and eventually abandoning her, even by at least one of her sisters whom my wife also witnessed getting done by the father though not as bad ,and my wife even as a kid tried to protect her younger sisters.. ok there is the usual wts crap "we have no witnesses" even though my wife called out to jehovah to stop him as he did this for years.

Grammy

Mothers keeping silent, victims keeping silent, and abusers feeling that they've done nothing wrong are more the norm than the rest of the world would like to think. There is often an unspoken conspiracy of silence within the family that allows this type of abuse to go unchecked for years - even decades and amongst generations.

BizzyBee, you hit the nail on the head with that comment.

Incest is a despicable crime that does run rampant in some families for generation after generation, it's even more despicable that the JW's who claim to represent god on earth allows it to happen and looks the other way.

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Nice Experience with my "Worldly" Relatives

by bavman in

after da'ing myself three years ago i wanted to get in touch with some of my "worldly" relatives since i had mostly ignored them for quite sometime and because my witness relatives were shunning me.

about the only relative i had a relationship with was my sister who was df'd.

i wasn't quite sure how to go about this because i didn't know what my parents had told any of them if anything.

Grammy

To all those lurkers out there who wonder if it worth losing family and friends to be honest with yourself about the borg and follow your instincts and your heart I say: YES! Without a doubt. In time all who are truly friends and family flock together with you...

What a heartwarming story, I'm really happy for you!

Thanks for sharing this experience it really made me smile and I needed a smile today.

I Disassociated 7 years ago after 26 years a JW and it was the best thing I could have done for myself.

Grammy

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Shunned from society, widows flock to city to die

by Grammy in

and i thought the jw's treated their elderly badly.. this is the most horrendous thing i have ever heard off, it's truly disgusting!.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/world/asiapcf/07/05/damon.india.widows/index.html?eref=rss_topstories.

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Grammy

And I thought the JW's treated their elderly badly.

This is the most horrendous thing I have ever heard off, it's truly disgusting!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/07/05/damon.india.widows/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

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Anyone going to the Mobile, AL DC this week-end?

by MinisterAmos in

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i've got an assignment!

watch the stage and gaze upon me with awe!

Grammy

No I won't thank goodness but I attended DC's and assemblies there for many years in the late 70's through the early 90's

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My Grandpa Died Sunday

by noni1974 in

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my grandpa died sunday afternoon.i was there in the room with him.i had to watch as he struggled to take his last breaths.it was horrific to watch.this was the second time i have watched someone in my family die.he died of prostate cancer.it was a long and painful death.i'm glad he's not in pain anymore.. at the moment i'm feeling a little emotional and upset about what i saw and all of the jw bs i had to listen too.i'm also dreading the jw memorial which is next weekend.i am planning on going.i'm da ed so i don't expect anyone to come up and talk to me or express there sorrow to me.the thing is i feel like i should be comferted and people should tell me they are sorry i lost my grandfather.i lost someone who i had alot of respect for all of my life regaurdless of how close we were after i da ed.i think i'm going to be excluded at the dinner after.they are planning a reception type thing for after the service.

i'm glad i did get the chance to see him and talk to him before he got really sick.i had the chance to go to dinner with him and my parents and a couple of my aunts a few months ago.when he was leaveing he asked me pointedly for a hug.he said he was collecting them.i hugged him and said i loved him.that was the last time i saw him till i went to my aunts house where he was staying just before he went into hospice.the next time i saw him was 3 weeks ago when he entered hospice and wasn't expected to live the night out.then i saw him sunday i arrived about 20 to 30 minutes before he took his last breath.he was creamated this week and will be buried with my other family in our family plots soon.. anyway i'm just in need of some kind words of support at the moment.i though that jwd would give that to me even though i don't post here that much.it really sucks to feel alone at times like this..

Grammy

My Grandpa died Sunday afternoon.I was there in the room with him.I had to watch as he struggled to take his last breaths.It was horrific to watch.

My heart goes out to you, I had that very same experience when my mother died, it was heart wrenching. I also lost my first born son May 26, so I feel your pain. Grammy

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Were your prayers ever answered while being a JW

by Grouper in

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did any of your prayers ever get answered while being a jw even if they where small maybe insignificant?

pesonnally i never really needed my prayers to be answered but one time while the co visited us i was going to work with him durining saturady service i get there at 0930 but service started at 0900. i felt i missed my chance to work with him and show i was commited and i wanted to asked him how i can reconcile the fact i did not believe that noah's flood existed globally with the way the society views it.

i left the kingdom hall pissed off thinking i fu*ked things up, so i kinda said to jah well i messed up gettin some clarity to to my quandry.

Grammy

Yes, in 2000 after much research and Many, Many doubts about JW's I begged God for a sign to let me know if I was worshipping him it the way he wanted to be worshipped and the next day my sister came to my house to tell me she would be disfellowshipped that Thursday night for apostasy and wanted me to hear it from her.

She was the one who first told me about the JW's in 1973 and was the most sincere and zealous witness I ever knew, I had no idea of what had been happening in her life concerning the JW's because she lived in another state almost a thousand miles away.

My other sister was with her and said she was disassociating after 20 years as a JW.

That was my answer from God as far as I was concerned, I disassociated the following week.

Sandi/Grammy

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Adam & Eve question???

by tan in

one of my workmates just asked or stated...why did eve have to have a rib from adam and all of the the other animals were just created?

funny thought but interesting.

Grammy

Come on, people! This is the most warped myth imaginable being passed off as history.

It is folk nonsense.

I wholeheartedly agree

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good in jehovah's witnesses

by John Doe in

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i thought it might be nice to see some positive things mentioned about jw's.

now, i know mentioning these things may be hard given the experiences here, but i've yet to find a group of people who don't have something positive about them.

if there weren't something positive, no one would ever join.

Grammy

When I first became a witness, our congregation had some kind and caring, usually older, brothers and sisters.
Those were the days.
Warlock

That was my experience also Warlock... I joined in 1974 and spent the next 26 years in the same congregation, there were many sincere, kind and caring individual witnesses who I really liked even loved... I really don't have a negative impression or bad feelings towards individual witnesses, they are misled and brainwashed just like I was, it's the people who run the organization that I hate and despise. Grammy

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Shunned at Walmart

by Grammy in

the greeter was a woman i once called friend and who (unfortunately now) was baptized after studying with me for a year.

when i walked in i was the only one coming through the door so it's not like she didn't see me, she turned away and ignored me...not wanting to lower myself to her level i simply got a shopping cart and went about my shopping, my first instinct was to report her to management for dereliction of duty but i thought better of that because my doing so would show her it upset me.

i really owe her a debt of gratitude because it was at her baptismal talk that my first strong doubt that it was the truth finally penetrated my foggy brain, as i sat and repeated the baptismal questions to myself at the assembly when she was being baptized i realized they were not the same ones i answered in 1974, that started me on my journey out of the org.

Grammy

the greeter was a woman I once called friend and who (unfortunately now) was baptized after studying with me for a year. When I walked in I was the only one coming through the door so it's not like she didn't see me, she turned away and ignored me...not wanting to lower myself to her level I simply got a shopping cart and went about my shopping, my first instinct was to report her to management for dereliction of duty but I thought better of that because my doing so would show her it upset me. I really owe her a debt of gratitude because it was at her baptismal talk that my first strong doubt that it was the Truth finally penetrated my foggy brain, as I sat and repeated the baptismal questions to myself at the assembly when she was being baptized I realized they were not the same ones I answered in 1974, that started me on my journey out of the org. Thank Goodness!

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What told you that no holy spirit was moving the BOE?

by Crumpet in

i've read on and off here of various things that told people that god's spirit was not directing the organisation.. personally for me on the last time i got dfed it was the fact that i got reinstated by a meeting of the boe at the exact same moment i was smoking my first cigarettes in 7 months.

i didnt question it exactly but it did seem odd.

i mean i had no idea that they were discussing my reinstatement at that moment that i succumbed and had decided in my favour.

Grammy

I was only in one congregation the whole time I was a JW (26 years) it was one of those congregations where 90% of the members are related by blood or marriage and there was a lot of things told to the elders that immediately became gossip spread by the elders wives...I was the recipient of such gossip when I insisted my husband and I talk to the elders about something he had done, he was put on private reproof for it but by the next week what he had was done was the talk of the kingdom hall, when he demanded to know how that happened he was told that a "sister" who reads lips read my lips telling some other "sisters" about it at the front of the hall, She couldn't identify these "sisters" however because all she could see was me and the back of a "Black Sister's head" but she knew there were several "sisters" there! I would never have told anyone what he did and he knew I wouldn't...I was furious and let them know that I knew one of the elders we talked to told gossipmonger wife and she spread it around...that convinced me once and for all God's spirit was not directing anything about that cult!