Posts by Cygnus

Farkel, I too have been wondering what will happen when my father finally dies. He started a form of chemotherapy on Friday and every two weeks has to go in for more tests. Tests, tests, and more tests -- they can't figure out exactly what's wrong with him.

Since I'm the eldest son, I think I have a right to say something at the funeral. However, since it will undoubtedly be held at a Kingdom Hall, and since I'm DF'd, then they wouldn't let me. I'd like to be so brave as to step up to the stage and say, "Excuse me, I have a few words I'd like to say." You never know, it might work, hearts could soften.

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RUSSIA GOES FOR THE GOLD

by You Know in

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this present system is definitely finished.

the present system being the anglo-american dollar dominated system.

it is in the final stages of collapse as is becoming more obvious by the day.

Cygnus

The link quotes LaRouche as saying:

'Bush is a perfect fascist. We don't have a fascist regime yet in the United States. But we have a fascist party in power, within the Republican Party, represented by a President who's an integral part of that.'

I dunno, dude. Bush a fascist? Russian gold coin currency a sign of the end? Global financial collapse by mid-August?

See you in October. :)

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Help for a non-Witness

by hagey in

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i'm looking for anyone who is married to a non-witness, or someone who themselves is not a witness but is married to one.

i'm in desperate need of advice and don't know where else to turn.

i myself am not a witness but my girlfriend is and our religous differences are forcing us apart.

Cygnus

Hagey, dude, let me share something with you. I quit the Witnesses over 4 years ago. My JW wife left me for about 5 months. We got back together and things are better than ever in our marriage (been married over 9 years). At the risk of sounding like a selfish bastard, it's great that my wife goes to meetings, field service, and so forth several times a week. It gives me plenty of opportunity to do what I want. And I know that she's not going to get into any trouble. And, the best part is, even though I'm disfellowshipped and considered an apostate, I am still the head of the household, so whatever I say goes, thanks to the theocratic authority structure. And you know what? I have her immeasurable respect, because I stood up for myself and am leading a responsible life.

Trust me, dude. If JWs really thought their religion was the TRUTH, they would quit their jobs and pioneer. Rarely does that happen. In the back of their minds they know that it's basically BS. So if you play the game right and stand up for yourself, everything can be cool.

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Who Were the NWT Translators?

by AlanF in

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i just posted this information to a private email list, but i think it will be of interest to people on this board.. the following list of translators of the new world translation is a compilation from a variety of sources:.

frederick w. franz: main translator.

took liberal arts sequence at university of cincinnati; 21 semester hours of classical greek, some latin.

Cygnus

It has been intimated to me that there were several persons on the 'translation team' besides Fred Franz. Obviously the other fellows -- Schroeder, Klein, Gangas, etc. -- had nothing to do with translation but served in administrative capacities.

Just as the Writing Committee doesn't do all the writing for the magazines, neither was the Translation Committee for the NWT solely responsible for the translation work.

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10 movies > stuck on an island

by Bendrr in

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to carry the island thing further, if you were stuck on an island what 10 movies would you have?.

1. superman.

2. airplane!.

Cygnus

Fast Times At Ridgemont High
The Breakfast Club
Better Off Dead
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Back To The Future
Eyes Wide Shut
Full Metal Jacket
Jaws
Seven
No Man's Land 17 (had to sneak a good porno in there)

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One Simple Truth

by metatron in

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some things are so simple, they can get overlooked.. for some time, i wished there was a simple, unassailable.

arguement against being one of the borg.. and there is - what is the purpose of life?.

answer: to be happy!

Cygnus

Playing golf certainly brings me much happiness (except for my meltdown on #18 today which ruined an otherwise terrific round).

That said, I do not believe that the pursuit of happiness ought to be the sole or primary goal one ought to be dedicated to. Necessity, and responsibility, are. What is necessary, and what one is responsible for, might not bring happiness, but it is what makes the world a better place for everyone.

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WTBTS considered as Apostate by Russians

by waiting in

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howdy,.

attention: this has happened in romania - not russia.

duh - my fault.. i received this e-mail, and am passing on to y'all.

Cygnus

As I recall, this group strictly adheres to the teachings of Rutherford, and when they found out what Knorr/Franz did to the organization, they were appalled.

I dunno, I could be wrong. I first came across something like this about 3-4 years ago, and as I recall they were Romanian, and not Russian.

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