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  My father will lose his privileges if he attends my sister's wedding

  by Goldminer in

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  my sister is planning on getting married within the next few months.her jw husband committed adultery and left her when their son was 7 weeks old.after getting a scriptural divorce she began a friendship with a "worldly" man and now this friendship has grown to a soon-to-be marriage.

  this man studied with the jw's for a while but could see right through them found too many of their teachings didn't make sense so he stopped studying.he's made his stand with my sister and told her she can still attend meetings if she wants to.he's also a good worker and seems to really love the kids.he's not perfect but no worse than many jw husbands.

  anyways,the elders pulled my dad aside on tuesday night and told him he could(could????!@#*?

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  Cygnus

  When my littlest brother (JW) got married at a Kingdom Hall to a JW girl, I went to the KH wedding even though I was DF'd and had hair halfway down my back. After the ceremony and before pictures the "ushers" tried to get us to leave and I said, "we're family, bozos, we're staying for pictures."

  I've been lucky that none of my JW family shuns me, and my JW brother who knows I'm DF'd was happy to have me at his wedding. I feel so bad for the people who JWs get to run every aspect of their lives, even the most intimate. I haven't had these experiences (other than the elders tellling my then-JW wife to avoid me at every opportunity while we were married and encouraging her to move out and leave me) but that turned out to be a blessing in disguise. JWs sure have some twisted ideas on family affairs and I'm lucky I've been spared all this time.
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  Two more Old friends Died this Week

  by Undecided in

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  i guess i will have to get used to that happening.

  one of them was a black man that i played with when i was about 7 years old while my grandma studied with his grandma and mother.

  they became jws.

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  Cygnus

  I'm so sorry, Ken. You're still one of my favorite posters after all these years and I try not to miss any of your posts. :)
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  Smart JWs

  by greendawn in

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  most of us often talk about what we don't like in the jws and why we left but i think there are some smart persons/families/entire congs there who know how to play the system, they don't really give a toss about the wts ideology (or behaviour) but they stay there just to have a good social or family life in exchange for giving 5 or 7 hours to the org per week.

  to them it is a social club not a religion.

  have you seen or heard anything on this?

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  Cygnus

  The very best way (IMNSHO) to keep people, online anyway, from becoming a JW or becoming interested in JWism is to act like a strict JW from the 1950s-1980s and not act apostate-like. Those who have become JWs recently either aren't familiar with the old spoken and unspoken "rules" or just don't really care.
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  Albert Einstein and his nature of turning inward?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i would like to here your opinions about ae even if you don't know much about him,, what do you think about him according to what limited knowledge you have of him.

  i think this would be fun for our imagination.

  i bet those that have a mystical nature might have some interesting things to say as well as you science buffs.. i think he was very introverted,,had great intuitions,, a very lively imagination,,and had perhaps experinced enlightenment perhaps not as much as some mystics but quite abit atleast that's what i gather from the recient thread i started which has some quotes of his ideas about spirituality.

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  : I meant that the WTBTS treats it's followers like they are mindless morons that can't tie their own shoes much less make any sense out of the bible

  Um, I know there are many groups out there that have their explanations of the Bible, and many groups that have formed a consistent theory on the Bible's message. But JWs almost stand alone in their explanation of the whole of the Bible. To say that JWs make no sense out of the Bible is simply ignorant.
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  I was snubbed by a 'dub

  by Dawn in

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  in the last month i left my job of 15 years for a new company (better benefits, room for advancement, yadda yadda).

  i'm pretty excited about this new job - and it's a very large company.

  there are over 4,000 employees in just this one branch division that i work in.

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  Cygnus

  Rude schmood. Snubbed schnubbed. Do your job 9-5. If one of your friends does that to you then there's an issue for you to investigate. I understand this is a JW related board and you posted your anecdote here because it's your story, but honestly, Witnesses have every right to do what they think is best under whatever circumstances provided they don't break the law. If some guy who was a dedicated member of my secular guild up and quit and derided it and then said things against it, and one day out of the blue tried to be friendly with me, I'd probably be taken aback and not sure how to handle the situation either. My guess is your Witness co-worker will eventually come around and be civil towards you. Just don't expect him or her to eat lunch with you.
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  I need a Watchtower magazine cover picture

  by Cygnus in

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  can anybody scan me a wt cover or direct me somewhere where i can find a picture of a wt cover that is of decent size, say, 1000 x 700 or so?

  thanks very much.

  otherwise i might have to hunting one down at a doctor's office or landrymat.

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  Hi Blondie, thanks, but those are way too small. I want something thats like 1200 X 800 or so that I can use to make a spoof cover. Thanks anyway. :)
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  I need a Watchtower magazine cover picture

  by Cygnus in

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  can anybody scan me a wt cover or direct me somewhere where i can find a picture of a wt cover that is of decent size, say, 1000 x 700 or so?

  thanks very much.

  otherwise i might have to hunting one down at a doctor's office or landrymat.

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  Cygnus

  Can anybody scan me a WT cover or direct me somewhere where I can find a picture of a WT cover that is of decent size, say, 1000 X 700 or so? Thanks very much. Otherwise I might have to hunting one down at a doctor's office or landrymat.
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  NEW JOANNA AND EYEGIRL UPDATE

  by Cygnus in

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  i have no update because i have been away from them for 2 days now.

  cygnus, suffering minnesota blondes withdrawal

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  Cygnus

  Hey Eddie, how you doin'? They did sound the lightning alarm but I ignored it and continued on, firm and determined to finish my round. :P
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  DF'd/DA'd, Death, Resurrection --- Future new light?

  by catchthis in

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  years ago when i first started to question the organization and i knew at some point in time that i would eventually da myself or be df'd for some reason, i always wondered if my family would, in time, accept me once again after shunning me.

  the 1995 generation thread brought this back up in my mind and i was interested to know if anyone else used this same line of thinking.. for the sake of those who still have jw relatives, let's put on their thinking caps for a minute.

  jw's understand that just about everyone that has ever lived upon the face of the earth and have died, will be resurrected.

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  Cygnus

  I'm DF'd and none of my JW family shuns me. The elders at my judicial meeting told me it would be a "real hardship" for them not to talk to me anymore. I laughed for a good 5 minutes. Hell, my JW ex-wife doesn't even shun me. The attitude is already starting. Ray Franz wrote some articles in the 1970s about taking it easy on DF'd ones and in 1981 the Society shot back in writing about not even saying a simple hello. My guess is we'll see that approach taken again and probably soon with the easy access to DF'd people on the internet. The hardliners at Bethel say, you're either with us, or against us, and if against us, pack your stuff and get out of here. I even had a 16 year old JW kid asking me advice in a JW-related chat room about whacking it and he compared the "sin" to murder. There's still a crop of young impressionable JWs out there to handle the dirty work of keeping 'the friends' in line but I do agree with one thing, JWism is heading for a major fallout come the next decade.

  Edited to add: as for resurrection, I doubt most JWs even think about that. They're concerned with the here and now. Which is a good/bad thing depending on the circumstances.
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  NEW JOANNA AND EYEGIRL UPDATE

  by Cygnus in

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  i have no update because i have been away from them for 2 days now.

  cygnus, suffering minnesota blondes withdrawal

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  Cygnus

  Ok well I will add this much. Joanna was kind enough to direct me to a golf course near her house which I played in the rain, with borrowed clubs from the 1960s (not even a wedge to be found in the bag) that had an odd odor to them, no golf shoes, 9 lost balls, and a storm from the scene in Caddyshack. But I still managed to shoot 100. So according to my calculations I, in reality (whatever that is) shot an 82. Not that any of you care.