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  do you get enough spiritual food?

  by terafera2 in

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  this was sent to me by a loving 'sister' (do you think it was a hint??):.

  a weak brother wrote a letter to a friend complaining that it made no sense to go to meetings regularly.

  "i've gone for 30 years now," he wrote, "and in that time i have heard something like 3,000 talks.

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  I think if an "elder", "sister", and/or "brother" sent someting to me like this, I would reply:

  I ate crap once. And from that one time, I will always remember never to eat it again.

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  WT's new propaganda on net

  by Dogpatch in

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  the watchtower has all kinds of new propaganda about lies, manipulation of information, etc.

  http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2000/6/22/article_02.htm.

  looks like we've all been lied to by apostates, they are really the true religion after all!!.

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  Using propaganda to express their anti-propaganda material. Is this an oxymoron?

  If I was presented with the choice of:
  A) Believe the tripe coming from the Governing Body and writers of the WTBTS.
  or
  B)Ride a rollercoaster

  I'd choose "B".

  A rollercoaster is cheaper, entertaining, and much more reliable. And should you have a strong stomach, the rollercoaster presents the hope of ending at some point.

  D8TA
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  Life, Universe, and Everything

  by D8TA in

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  since i kinda find myself coming to this board frequently as of late.

  i thought i share my perspective on life, universe, and everything.

  kinda to let you all know where i'm coming from.. .

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  Undecided said

  If you loved God with your whole mind, soul and strength would you have any left for your neighbor?

  Are you married? Do you not love your wife with your whole mind,heart,body, and soul? Do ya have children? Do you ALSO love them with your whole mind, heart, body and soul?

  Love in my point of view...if funny in that way. You can "love" more then one thing at a time with whole mind,heart,body and soul. At least I believe I can.

  Yadirf said:

  God had to start off SOMEWHERE in creating life for occupying the material realm of his universe, so why couldn't that be here at earth?

  Heh heh...go back up where I said:

  I have a wild guess (since, so far there's no solid proof)...

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  Life, Universe, and Everything

  by D8TA in

  1. jw
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  since i kinda find myself coming to this board frequently as of late.

  i thought i share my perspective on life, universe, and everything.

  kinda to let you all know where i'm coming from.. .

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  Since I kinda find myself coming to this board frequently as of late. I thought I share my perspective on Life, Universe, and Everything. Kinda to let you all know where I'm coming from.

  Life, Universe, and Everything
  From my point of view:

  We humans. The universe, it revolves around us, eh?

  Bibles says God is all knowing, all powerfull. Need some scriptures? Nah...didn't think so.

  Perhaps...just perhaps...God HAD NOT put that tree in there to "test" his piece of software...errr, sorry...humans. When we look at this "fable", we seem to be forgetting a "key" element. A entity perhaps is more accurate. Can we say SATAN! (best church lady voice)

  I have a wild guess (since, so far there's no solid proof) that we humans ARE NOT the only...nor are we the first...creation of God. And, no, I'm not talking about "angels". I think there are other intelligent species, albeit they be human or not, out there in that infinite universe. Come on, I mean we all pretty much seen the Hubble photos right? 10's of 1000's (for all we know an infinity of them)of galaxies just swirling around. Each galaxy hosting a number of stars, that we can't even count them. Stars with solar systems revolving around them. And not one of them has intelligent life in them? Come on! What a waste of "space".(Pun inteneded)

  I think God knew, he knew that his position as creator of this universe was going to be questioned. And, according to the Bible, it was. Good ol' Lucifer. Yep... he said "Jeez folks...who the heck is this God guy anyway...I say we should have a Democracey! (Or Federal Republic if you wish-Anarchy anyone?)".

  So here we are. The one planet in this universe, that happens to be the dispute of this universal sovriegnty. We are the center of the conflict. Or perhaps not. Who knowz really what's going on out there. But God decides to set up the "tree", let humans fail. Gives Satan some control over this world. After all, he could want to be fair. We're the court room. This is where the sides are debating.The argument is being presented here on good ol' planet earth.

  Satan has control of the earth for a while. God's letting the rest of the inhabitants of this expansive universe witness (jeeez, even that word is now ruined for me now...anywayz...) how Satan is running things in to the ground. That perhaps, God, is trying to show in fairness that since he created all of this stuff...that God best knows how to work it.

  But see, there's a catch-22 to God's plan. Sure, there's going to be suffering and turmoil on earth. There's going to be pain. There's going to be "death". This catch-22 is not against humans...but against Satan. See, after the pain, suffering, and death...our bodies would die...but our spirit and soul....our very existence...that little thing inside of us that makes us aware of who we are...could not be istinguished. That we humans, who say "Wow God knows what he doing! Hail to the King Baby"! recieve that "everlasting life". Those who see it Satan's way, and believe that the Creator doesn't have the right...they just *poof* out of existence at the end of this court battle and final judgement.

  I believe that Christ kept his message simple. I believe it's so simple as to "accepting Christ as the Son of God and thru him we have everlasting life". The old testament? Ha! Just foundation work. After Christ, it's a whole different story. And the rules and regulations that have been interpreted by humans with all the other fluff beyond Christ's message is trivial. I think the key point of the message is "hope and faith". To just hang on to that. Endure what's going on, and keep "faith and hope".

  I believe that God knew humans would twist, distort, and mangle the simplicity of this message. Hence, Christ kept it THAT simple. The rest of the stuff we've all heard from various religions....all trivial. We can argue scriptures till our faces are blue. We can cite all of them, and each of us is going to walk away with our point of view on what we "think" God was saying in the scriptures. So why argue?

  I believe that the message is simple. In tandem with "love God with all your heart,mind, body and soul. Love your neighbor as yourself"....Christ said that should about cover it. Not for us to swabble with each other on the rest of the stuff. The Old Testament and books of Prophecy is simply a record for the future. A record to be recalled when everything is said and done.

  That's my point of view. I know some of you are going to want to reply with: "But, but, MYFAVORITEBOOK verse 13-21 says..."
  If it does say *the point I want to make to you D8TA*...then that point was not ment for me...but for you and you alone. If there are scriptures that "you the reader" find that the others in this world should adhere to...then perhaps those scriptures are only meant to adhere to you. And you have the right to that SELF application.

  For you who dont believe in anything the Bible holds...or have a different point of view on this whole Life, Universe, and Everything...it doesn't change a thing in my book with you. You have your insights and experiences that I can't even touch. For all I know...you could be right.

  That's my perspective on things.

  D8TA
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  Smurfs, Pokemon, how 'bout Star Wars?

  by Adam in

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  the recent thread on pokemon reminded me of a talk i heard once years ago.

  an then-brother was giving a talk on being rightous.

  he recounted the tale of speaking with an older brother when the star wars movie first came out (episode 4, not the new ones).

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  What I find hilarious in all this is; All of this...The Smurfs, Pokemon, Star Wars...etc. It's all FANTASY! Pure creative entertainment birthed from someones IMAGINATION! It's FICTION! None of these apply to REALITY! It NEVER EXISTED or EXISTS in terms of actual history.

  People in positions such as PO's, CO's, DO's, GB find anything that threatens their imagination and creativity to be questionable. And they'll exploit it, to cater to there "power needs".

  Can you imagine these peoples sex lives???

  "Dear, let's make love." -Brother Districtoverbear
  "Yes, lets." -Mrs. Districtoverbear

  3 seconds later...

  "Good Night Dear" -Brother Districtoverbear
  "Yes, Good Night." -Mrs. Districtoverbear

  What an existance...sad, sooooo sad.
  *twirls tongue gauge*

  D8TA
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  New book on JW's

  by RR in

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  just received a new book i ordered on barnes and nobles website.. jehovah's witnesses.

  portrait of a contemporary religious movement.

  andrew holden [2002].

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  ****TOP SECRET FILES OF WATCHTOWER BIBLE TRACT SOCIETY****

  Communications as follows:

  "Brother Bigone, we need to impliment damage control to bury Franz's C of C, our members will start to question us." -Brother Mysterious

  "Yes, we need one of our authors to pen a book under some ghost writer's name." -Brother Bigone

  "Brother Bigone, please explain" -Brother Mysterious

  "You fool, dont you see?? We ghost write some material trashing our own material, but will load it with full of *disinformation*. That way we can validate our point that the Apostates are out to get us!" -Brother Bigone

  "And if this plan should fail?" -Brother Mysterious

  "I have a backup plan. It's called the "Death Star". It has the ability to destroy entire planets! Mwahahhahahah!" -Brother Bigone

  ***Reply of remaining Governing Body Members****
  ***Transmition Proceeding****

  "Excellent...." -Brother Burns

  ****End Message***

  Heh heh heh

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  "THE LIGHT JUST GOT BRIGHTER-----AGAIN"

  by new boy in

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  i like the society never apologize anymore!

  if i say something wrong or do something incorrect i merely say excuse me the light just got brighter.

  most people look confused when i say this, as do the people in the watchtower bible tract society, but i felt it works for them,------------ its good enough for me.. excuse me the light just got brighter yes i like the sound of that.. one member of the writing department said to another we really got this disfollewshipping thing wrong-------- first we say we cant talk to them.

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  The Governing Body reminds me of someone....hmmm....oooh, can we say HOMER SIMPSON???

  "light goes on"
  "light goes off"
  "light goes on"
  "light goes off"
  "light goes on"
  "light goes off"
  "light goes.....

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  the end of this system

  by rnovello in

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  2. bible

  so when do the jws tell now that the end is to come since the other dates were wrong, anyone know?

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  The speaker said:

  "The purpose of this talk is to build up a sense of urgency in the brothers. Be sure to prepare well and to present the material with enthusiasm."

  This eeeh...."urgency", been going on for about a century now. Ahem...now, if I met this guy I would have to say:

  "Buddy, if you've felt this "urgency" for this long...there is a ways to rectify that situation".

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  Im a freak

  by WildTurkey in

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  im a freak, are you?.

  http://www.outofservice.com/freak/

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  Need to be unique: 95%
  Need to NOT conform: 97%
  Willingness to express dissent: 91%
  Overall: 95%

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  JWs vs Pokémon now (not Smurfs!)

  by Scully in

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  http://communities.msn.co.uk/justjws/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&id_message=346&lastmodified=4675362183043271458 .

  from: elsamu (original message) sent: 23/01/2002 11:23 .

  hello, brothers&sisters.. .

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  For those who have family that are still willing to talk to you...ask them this question:

  Do you like watching the Wizard of OZ?

  It's funny. I knew tonz of witnesses who would watch this movie, and still do. Let's think about this for a second:(puts on JW goggles)

  1) It has a bad witch, that does practice her magic powers in this movie.
  2) Use of a crystal ball
  3) Glenda the "good witch" also uses her magical powers.
  4) Ruby Slippers item of magical enchantment with magical powers.
  5) A "wizard" is in it, grant it he doesn't use any "magical" powers, but hey...he's a "wizard".

  A lot of JW's and fundamental christians (I like calling 'em Fun-I'm-mental) just luuuuv The Wizard of OZ. Yet they have this double standard when it comes to Harry Potter, Pokemon, Smurfs, etc.

  D8TA