with the recent birth of a jw sextuplet "litter" .
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/169562.
possible need for blood transfusions clashes with jehovah's witness belief.
There might be something in that about IVF treatment . I've always understood the JW approach to IVF was negative , for the fertilized eggs are kept frozen till needed to be used ,and then there may be some left over and not needed later and then destroyed, which would be seen as taking a life.
The WTS might be embarresed about this, that the 2 issues of blood and IVF are being shared at the same time ,one positive for their publicity and then IVF which is not a good point to focus on.
if it was always here, how did it get here?
let's leave god out of the equation for now.. blueblades.
Why would you ask a question like that here?
Asking people who have left JW's will not give any answer will it? All of mankind and science cannot and will not find out in our present state ,perhaps only a time machine could give the answer. But where did the time machine come from?
Perhaps acceptance of all things just being here is all that is needed to move ahead?
now we're fighting in africa:.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topnews&storyid=2007-01-09t000337z_01_n08415011_rtrukoc_0_us-somalia-qaeda-report.xml&wtmodloc=newshome-c1-topnews-6.
Is it then a red herring thrown into distract Bush's embarrassment when he pulls the troops?
now we're fighting in africa:.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topnews&storyid=2007-01-09t000337z_01_n08415011_rtrukoc_0_us-somalia-qaeda-report.xml&wtmodloc=newshome-c1-topnews-6.
Does that mean there's oil there?
has there ever been assaults on a bethel or attacks at people within a bethel?.
with so many people hurt by the wts and that eventually leads to anger ,has anyone used violence to pay back the hurt?.
Has there ever been assaults on a Bethel or attacks at people within a Bethel?
With so many people hurt by the WTS and that eventually leads to anger ,has anyone used violence to pay back the hurt?
do any other single guys here experience this?
i can go for months without meeting one woman of interest.
then suddenly women start coming out of the wood work.
Maybe it's like houses in your suburb ,every now and then the same houses go up for sale having been used for a while ,and because the same type of people populate them all the time they come back on the market again
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is there a letter to the boe that stated that if an elder confessed to having committed a serious sin a number of years ago, (three years or so) and nobody knew about it, he need not be removed?
http://www.silentlambs.com/education/letter_wt_06012001.cfm
Try this link ,it is a BOE from England which suggests a person who sinned (molested in this case) some time ago can be appointed to the body if the sin was some time ago .Note this also applies to elders currently serving who were molesters some time before.
As long as Bethel says it's ok to serve then the elder body can appoint or reaffirm the persons position as an elder. Perhaps they figure that if nobody remembers the molestation any more then it's ok to put them or keep them in power! I hope this helps
i recently read of a survey regarding unhappy wives.
it seems that nearly most women wouldn't do it all over again with the same man.
they were unhappy for various reasons.
Loyal Love (OOPS WAS'NT THAT A KINGDOM SONG)
When a man with a big belly has a wife who thinks it's cuddly
When a woman with a larger butt has a husband who says she is shapely
oh.... how the saga goes on!!
i swear we could write a novel about our life exiting the watchtower!!
ok..many of you read what happened..our house was egged and so was my sisters car that was parked here, and "frosty" was attacked!!
We all know what really motivated them to do this damage
Reporting to the police the damage and giving them a possible motive for what happened is a proper thing to do, and then let them handle it at your insistence.
Was there any offer of cleaning up the mess and financial restitution.....probably not, which indicates their disdain for you?
As regards the action taken by the elders, well they will only act in harmony with the public notoriety of the incident - if no action is taken by the victims probably nothing will be done to the perpetrators and they will be smugly content to continue in life with little damage to themselves within the confines of their spiritual city breeding children who know they can get away with what father did as a middle age immature hypocrite. The WTS is only interested in minimising publicity not whether some one is hurt by their buffoons.
Here's my post on another thread........
geevee said
It must be possible in some way or other. Some of these guys are in positions of trust, and some are trustee's for the ownership of Halls. I have heard about some Aussie guy from Adelaide, South Australia who used a K Hall as security for a loan that went belly up and the hall was repossessed!
Knorr used to have two first class seats on the plane, one for him and one for his witnessing bag. Well that is pretty right , this happened in the eightees I think in the Adelaide hills area of Mt.Barker and he was was an elder and one the top honchos at the time on the quick build committee for the district ,you know the type, lotsa relatives as JW's ,a big arrogant attitude about himself and had too much power over the affairs of the quick builds. Of course had the mates in bethel etc. so had the freedom to put up WTS property as back up for his business as a builder. For some time I would hear of trades people not getting paid by him to do his private work so he must have looked for an easy option...take the brothers money. I believe one relative also was a builder and corrupt the same way for someone stuck some jelly in a concrete slab of his and blew it up! When this first brother got caught out he would stand at the assembly hall doors and hand out programs "humbly" and I complained to his elder cronie mates who ran the assembly hall that a normal publisher would not get priveleges like he did if they sinned like him - well that did not go welll! Now this is the clincher......people wanted to take the WTS property away legally as they were owed money by this blokes business and he had put up as collateral WTS property and it did not look good for the society losing out ,so do you know what they did..................................... They begged for money donations at local Kingdom Halls for them to defray the cost of littigation and loss of property!!!!!!! I'm not sure how it all turned out for we moved interstate at the time but that elder did get DF"d some time later but I don't know if it was for the reason above. My wife and I would be challenged at the doors from householders about this affair when witnessing and we lived about 40 km away! So I guess you can siphon from the society ,for when we moved interstate the first congregation we went to there asked me to audit the Kingdom Hall books, and when I asked them why me? they said the brother that did the books for the past few years had just been caught out for stealing tens of thousands of dollars and they wanted someone new and independent to audit them...whew it goes on.....
