But they really didnt have two witnesses. So, all you eldes and ex-elders, can they form a judicial committee?
They can. All they need to do is get you to confess. Then they don't need the second witness.
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45Judicial Committee formed, can they do that with only one "witness"?
by BonaFide ini have started to read about cults with the book by steve hassan.
i look over my shoulder at the library, no way in the world i will check it out or buy it and take it home.
thank you all for your recommendations.
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Day 2 Convention Experience
by yknot inso day 2...... paying the piper for yesterday's behavior...... ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/163441/1.ashx ).
there was no lecture, no 'look'........just the privilege punishment of cleaning the section and our parents, well placed throughout our section.
it worked like a charm during the morning presentation.
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penny2
yknot, your DC threads really made me laugh! The elders must be wishing you'd stayed home!!
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Caved ! Went to DC ...but....
by yknot inall was going well......i had prepared some pages for my khs kids regarding 4 'forces' and they got a nice little science lesson.
they spent morning filling in the blanks, wordfinds, connect the dots and coloring pages.
parents of course were scribbling away at their notebooks.. fast forward to the afternoon......young people presentations..... well instead of bobble head bobbing in a sea of unison......there was a quiet but audible snickering going on that continued throughout the entire presentations....in my section.. turns out the generation that was the test subjects of the ypa v1 ( i was 17), thought it was all so funny and badly scripted.
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penny2
Am I reading this right? You are at the DC and giving kids, including some not your own, fun little exercises to do? And then when they start on about not going to college, whole families walk out?
This is hilarious!
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I realize I am taking up space and your time but I appreciate it
by BonaFide ini understand i jump around too much in my comments.
my add gets worse when i get nervous.
plus i know there are topics that could be more academic.
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penny2
I feel like a sinner, then I feel like I am a fun guy, then I feel like a loser, then I feel like a good Witness, then I feel like a bad Witness, then after a good workout I feel like chasing girls, then I feel bad again.
BF, I sympathize - I went through similar confusion many years ago. I thought I was a bad person and would die in Armageddon. The most liberating experience was finding out the truth about "the truth" and that I was normal.
It would be helpful if you could sort out your emotions before you got permanently involved with your current GF (ie married if that's what you are headed towards). Sort out the guilt - counselling might be helpful.
And it's good to have you here.
penny
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My seperation/Divorce up-date. Un-believable what she wants!
by Witness 007 inmy wife asked for a seperation last week.
she rattles off a huge list of wrong things, like dress better when going out {wear a jacket?
} and be more ambitious like her since she would have been a millioniare if i wasn't holding her back?
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penny2
Sounds like you're getting angry which is better than being upset (just keep your cool though). Separate bank accounts is a good idea.
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I just came from my elder's meeting
by BonaFide injust to review, i had my meeting today with the two elders who say a sister has accused me of "grinding" with her and thus porneia.
so i printed out several of your comments on how to defend myself.
i felt good about standing my ground, and repeating that i had not "grinded" with this ex-friend and that she wants to ruin the relationship i have now with the sister i am dating.. however, the two elders today really tried to pressure me.
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BonaFide
As I said in your previous thread, just tell the truth.
Most men in their 30s have sex at least a couple of times a week (well.... I think that's how it is). So the number of incidents you are talking about over a span of say 10 to 15 years, is not a lot. You've never passed on a STD, got someone pregnant or dumped a mother and a couple of kids.
So, you've not done a lot.
But still, when all told in one conversation, it will be embarrassing for you. Think Bill Clinton. He didn't have sex with that woman either.
So get it over and done with. Admit to whatever did happen, take your "punishment" (ridiculous as it is) and get on with your life.
Or would you rather face those angry girls?
penny
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What should I do at elders meeting with me?
by BonaFide ini am serving in an appointed position.
if you read my previous posts you will see.
an old girlfriend is accusing me of "grinding" which is porneia according to the society, and a disfellowshipping offense.
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Oh, and another thing. Stop worrying and get angry. They've had you sucked in under false pretences (you've already realized "the truth" is not what it's cracked up to be). Not only that, they've deprived you of a sex life in the best years of your life. And now you're having to face a kangaroo court over what? Grinding? It's making me angry just thinking about your case.
I just hope your new GF is going to be on the same page as you - if not now, then pretty soon.
penny
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What should I do at elders meeting with me?
by BonaFide ini am serving in an appointed position.
if you read my previous posts you will see.
an old girlfriend is accusing me of "grinding" which is porneia according to the society, and a disfellowshipping offense.
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penny2
What's your long term plan? To fade? If so, just tell the truth. You may lose your "position" but so what? It will make your fade easier.
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I thought at least one would.
by str8?so is spaghetti..until you heat it up inas we all know, i have been a little sick (or as some of you may know).
which has led to less sparkle.
which led to me being a little emotional.
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penny2
Well said, Eyes Open.
Str8, I think it's very sad that they haven't replied. But you did the right thing, sending them the message. That's how you felt and you spoke from the heart.
penny
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We are all still here 94 yrs. after 1914, 33 after 1975.
...and a whole lot happier after we discovered the real truth.