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  Big Round Up Going On At Bethel Brother Stefan Letts Leads The Team, Effort To Eradicate From Bethel Any Possible Demonized Objects

  by frankiespeakin in

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  well it's true i just got off the phone with johnny the bethelite and here's the story(syke):.

  it seem the brother letts was feeling kind of funny these days and has been hearing voices of the devil saying i'm gonna "get you" over and over again, so he's taken the matter up with jehovah in prayer, and now jehovah is saying conduct a search for any sparlock looking toys so the rest of the governing body at their weekly meeting decided to commission lett to take the lead since jehovah spoke to him, he should follow through.. so far they have collected 12 smurfs(one has to wounder how they ever got there?).

  they found a sparlock like looking doll over at childrens animation department, probably just model use for animation making,, but it was enough to have the whole department up before a fact finding committee.. letts gave the morning talk the day after, that turned into a 3 hour lecture on the evils of idolatry, and lying, and keeping things from the governing body in this matter of the 12 smurffs and at the end he said we will have to wait and see what the fact finding committee finds out about sparlock the warrior wizard.

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  WTF?
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  Jeremiah Source Material

  by Bobcat in

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  i started this thread as a single place for anyone who would like to add references to source material, or anything else for that matter, pertaining to the jeremiah book study.. .

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  here is a thread and numerous comments concerning jeremiah 13:1-11 and whether or not jeremiah traveled to the euphrates to hide a garment.. .

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  Typical of them to distort reality...
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  Why you CAN'T make sense of it.

  by baltar447 in

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  going through an dealing with a mentally ill spouse (living hell, long story, pm me if you want details), and talking to others who have dealt with the mentally ill, i've come to an epiphany.. you cannot make sense of "crazy".

  that's why, when you get out of the wt, get out of the mind control, and try to reason with your loved ones or friends, it will not work.

  we are dealing with people under mind control and i believe that is a close cousin of mental illness.

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  Thanks for the link Flipper, I remembered the thread but didn't think of that connection until you posted the link.
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  Why you CAN'T make sense of it.

  by baltar447 in

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  going through an dealing with a mentally ill spouse (living hell, long story, pm me if you want details), and talking to others who have dealt with the mentally ill, i've come to an epiphany.. you cannot make sense of "crazy".

  that's why, when you get out of the wt, get out of the mind control, and try to reason with your loved ones or friends, it will not work.

  we are dealing with people under mind control and i believe that is a close cousin of mental illness.

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  Thanks for the kind words you guys.

  This is SO true OSTS:

  When someone is mentally ill......they simply cannot reason in a normal fashion. It isn't even a lack of willpower or desire. They just cannot do it.

  Trying to make sense of it is not possible either, I tried for some time and lets just say it was totally not productive. So I just have to walk away from it at this point and leave it to the professionals.

  Along those lines, I wish there was more visibility for the need of counseling those leaving cults and high control groups.

  My situation isn't really cult related, but the lack of those boundaries that they do setup accelerated the crazy train in this instance. Sometimes mentally ill people thrive having a higher thing to answer to and conform to rules. But it doesn't always stop them from acting out or going completely off the reservation.
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  Why you CAN'T make sense of it.

  by baltar447 in

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  going through an dealing with a mentally ill spouse (living hell, long story, pm me if you want details), and talking to others who have dealt with the mentally ill, i've come to an epiphany.. you cannot make sense of "crazy".

  that's why, when you get out of the wt, get out of the mind control, and try to reason with your loved ones or friends, it will not work.

  we are dealing with people under mind control and i believe that is a close cousin of mental illness.

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  Going through an dealing with a mentally ill spouse (living hell, LONG story, PM me if you want details), and talking to others who have dealt with the mentally ill, I've come to an epiphany.

  You CANNOT make sense of "crazy". That's why, when you get out of the WT, get out of the mind control, and try to REASON with your loved ones or friends, it WILL NOT WORK. We are dealing with people under mind control and I believe that is a close cousin of mental illness. Cognitive dissonance, years of creating two personalities for self preservation, hiding your true self, it really creates serious psychological problems.

  We bust out heads wondering WHY these people can't see the truth. We almost go crazy ourselves wondering why any seemingly SANE person can't see "the truth about the truth". I beleive there's a strong connectiong between mind control and being mentall ill. Any thoughts?
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  I finally told my parents

  by nolongerconfused in

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  so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.

  my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.

  they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.

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  This was like the most awesome thing I will probably ever read on this forum
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  Rumor of new light on the headquarters of the WT

  by wolfman85 in

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  i read in a forum in spanish that there is a strong rumor spreading in the corridors of the wt.

  has anyone heard anything about this??

  the change that is emerging is this: the great crowd has not yet appeared, and it is a group that comes out of the great tribulation.

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  o_O
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  April 15, 2013 Watchtower - p. 22-26: Organization-Obsessed Much???

  by sd-7 in

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  there's a study article "make sure of the more important things", and in no uncertain terms the article makes clear that "jehovah's organization" is the most important thing.

  the term "organization" or "jehovah's organization" is used a whopping 24 times in the article, including a subheading titled: "follow the example of jehovah's organization".

  i thought organizations were entities, but that sort of subheading makes it seem like the organization is one giant person whose example we can follow.

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  LOL
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  Need Some Tough Love & Help

  by Simon Morley in

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  not sure how to approach this but here goes.....my wife discovered a porn site on the computer tonight.

  yes, i was going to them, and i was foolish to think i could never get caught.

  i have been visiting them for some years, not a daily problems, but occasionaly every month or so - still a problem wethere its once or a hundred times.

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  Wow. She feels like adultery would be EASIER to deal with?? O_o
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  todays wt study: illustrating an illusion? not only for lurkers and faders.

  by prologos in

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  an early video of the governing body showed them making weighty final decisions, such as choosing the right hue, the color of an apple in a preparation for publication.-- so we must assume that the articles -like todays study article- passed muster too.

  (october 15, 2012 page 22).

  can somebody smart put it up please.?.

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  I saw a face also. O_o