Prepare to move as soon as you are ready. New friends will come faster than you can imagine. the mover fade is pretty easy to pull off...if you move far enough away.
Posts by WLG
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53I am stuck in a life I don't want and can't see the way out
by Orgull insome of you have encouraged me already in the week or so i've been here and i think you.. here's the situation.
i am single.
i am 34 years old.
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Revelations about life after...
by WLG ini lost my password in the move and since my old e-mail is dead, i have ot use this screenname.
if a mod reads this please pm me to let me know what to do.
i had this problem about a year ago and it was never resolved.. thanks!
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WLG
Research. The history of religion...which DOES NOT MEAN THE BIBLE. There is a lot more to religion than the bible, if anything the Bible and Christianity is probably still an adolescnt in the area of religion. Still throwing tantrums and condemning people for petty things that really don't amount to crap. Same for the Muslim religions IMHO, only it's the child, making women cover their junk up because the men are too adolescent to view women as peers. Buddhism the adult...live life enjoy it, etc.
The similarities between them all is astonishing. Once you grasp that, and understand why they exist and where they came from and that they are all true, a whole new world opens up.
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Revelations about life after...
by WLG ini lost my password in the move and since my old e-mail is dead, i have ot use this screenname.
if a mod reads this please pm me to let me know what to do.
i had this problem about a year ago and it was never resolved.. thanks!
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WLG
I lost my password in the move and since my old e-mail is dead, I have ot use this screenname. If a mod reads this please PM me to let me know what to do. I had this problem about a year ago and it was never resolved.
Thanks! Wanderlustguy aka WLG aka Donnie
I think the biggest thing that has changed for me is not thinking I'm going to be dead and gone or in a new world in a few years. Reality is, we're gonna get old, and no one else is going to make that time any easier for us, so we have to do it for ourselves. We can't live like this is temporary because no one knows what if anything else there will be. A smart guy once said the hardest thing to comprehend for a person is that one day they won't be alive.
Once that is understood, though, it's very liberating. We were always taught that people who don't go to meetings and aren't actively handing out Watchtowers and conducting studies don't love Jehovah and are captivated by a world of sin and depravity.
I'd say the opposite is true form what I have seen. Yea, some go off the deep end, that's for sure, but there is a reason and it's not because that's what they want. The adjustment is huge to go from this (seemingly) warm and secure environment to a world where you are on your own and ill equipped to live in it. We don't even know how to plan for retirement!
A different smart guy through various statements got a point across to me, which I still struggle with, "If you are fully present in your present, it is more than enough". Basically spending less time on the past and only a little time on the future, and makinga n effort to be aware of now.
Right now I'm not in a great place in some ways, but in others, I'm better than ever. I know better what I want and how far I'm willing to go to get it.
I spent 2 years researching what I beleived. At one point I asked a friend of mine, a former Bethelite and probably the smarted guy I've ever met, what the real deal is. He told me he couldn't tell me but could only point me in the direction of the facts and I would either beleive it or not, and based on that response I would either get to a point and get stuck there, or move on to a life of constant amazement, growth and peace. Because the Truth about it all is all at once simple and complex but if we can stop thinking the way we were PROGRAMMED to, the curtain falls away and you see the reality of it all and once that happens and you get it, you spend days just laughing at the simplicity and absudity of it all.
We spend (we being humanity) so much time concerned about what God wants and the "Rules" that we end up insulting Him by neglecting the gifts we were given. We spend hours looking at printed words about what He wants from us and then walk outside and squash a living creature that has no reason to be there because it's a bug. We don't even notice the birds and sky anymore because we're thinking about what we did wrong to deseve the troubles we may have, or how we aren't good enough.
I'm not saying I know everything, but I am saying no one else does. God put so much in front of our faces, every time you ask to hear from him and walk outside...you get an answer. In my opinion the difference will be in whether or not we are prepared to hear it. Once you do...the world has a lot more color in it.
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Most Ex-JWs R Not Active in the Anti-JW Community. Maybe 1%? Any thoughts?
by Seeker4 inyesterday i called a family on the west coast that were in my congregation 18 years ago.
between parents, kids and marriage partners, there were six of them who had been witnesses.
they have all faded, and have had nothing to do with the witnesses for at least 15 year or more.. yet, none of them is in any way active even in looking at the ex-jw sites online.
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WLG
Any thoughts on this? Do you think as the ex-JW community becomes more vocal, we'll draw more in? What about you newbies? How come you're here? I know some of you have been out a long time. Are you thinking of being more active in the ex-JW arena?
I'm here just to keep up. I feel that the org took enough of my life and it's easy to give them more by sacrificing even more time and energy to ani-org activity. Most of the time I just want to forget it.
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Help
by dnl1211 ini'm taking social work in college and one of my papers is to do an experimental project on a topic that is completely different from who you are or your beliefs.
i met a girl at work that is a jehovah witness and i thought that it would be interesting to write my paper on.
if nobody minds would someone tell me their reactions if i was to come to your place of worship and you find out that i'm from a different religion?
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WLG
Oh wow...did you ever pick a good one...they would act like it didn't matter, and start something we call "love bombing". BTW, most of us here are ex-witnesses.
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What do you think about this?
by serendipity ini talked to my 'ex' the other day and he "enlightened" me.
he said he was going out with a 'plain jane' and they were deciding which restaurant to go to.
he mentioned he wanted a good steak, so she recommended del frisco's, which is a pricey steakhouse.
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WLG
Not really valid IMHO, if you're accustomed to really great food, it usually comes with a really great price. If someone says to me "GOOD STEAK", I think of something like Ruth's Chris or Del Frisco's, not Ryan's or Golden Corral. And actually...that restaurant is only a little above average for the type of restaurant it is...try Bluepointe in Atlanta or the Inn at Little Washington...$150.00 per person. -
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I know there's bigger news
by cyd0099 inbut my girlfriend dumped me last night.
she lost the spark she had for me she said...
i am alone again and i could use a hug.
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WLG
Here's a hug...not "that" way...but a man hug...
Hang in bro, maybe it's a good sign you need to take some selfish time.
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RICHIE RED ALERT
by RichieRich ini was on the phone speaking with verne thoren, presiding overseer of the willow springs, nc congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
he tells me he knows of my possesssion of the flock book.
he knows of my involvement on this site.
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WLG
Just dawned on me, the kid is on his way out of a cult, upsetting his mother and the balance of his home...and we're worried about whether or not it's ok to take a book from them.
Good luck dude, thinking about you today.
WLG
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Need Some Help Understanding
by Broken Hearted ini am a non jw, who has met a jw and we have been online chatting for last 9 months.
i have fallen in love with him.
he has been trying to push me away lately, and finding out one of the reasons is because of the religious background.
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WLG
He is in a cult. In order to fully grasp this you may have to do some research. They own his mind right now, and to make it worse, if you try to say anything at all contrary to what he believes right now, he will mentally shut you out.
I'm at a loss as to advice for these situations, as they come up often. He is on his way out, simply by virtue of the fact that you are talking. But how long the process takes and whether or not he backslides is anyones guess.
Jehovahs Witnesses are the very definition of a high control cult organization. They tell him what to think, what to wear, what to read, and what to say. Disagreement or disobedience regarding the elders is viewed as the same to the very face of God. But yet again, the ray of hope is that he is already "straying" and getting pressure on him. Send him cards, call him, be there for him. Be sicky sweet and hell run to you for comfort, because he will get none there once he is back in "compliance".
Sorry if this scares you or freaks you out...but it's what you are up against. Others will have more to say I am sure.
Best Wishes,
WLG
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RICHIE RED ALERT
by RichieRich ini was on the phone speaking with verne thoren, presiding overseer of the willow springs, nc congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
he tells me he knows of my possesssion of the flock book.
he knows of my involvement on this site.
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WLG
I wouldn't be free today without "stolen" information.
I doubt I'm alone.