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  Anyone heard from RichieRich?

  by undercover in

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  just curious how things are going for him.

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  thecarpenter

  hey Richie, I'm sending something in the mail, you should get it by monday or tuesday. (don't know how to use western union)
  Hang in there bud, things will work out for you.
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  Your favourite film of all time?

  by Spectrum in

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  mindless fun part (ii) .

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  mine is - west side story followed in second place by the very first star wars.

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  thecarpenter

  How about my top 10
  Gladiator
  Ben Hur
  Forest Gump
  Clint eastwood the good the bad the ugly
  Spiderman
  The count of monte cristo
  Rocky
  The lord of the Rings
  Die Hard
  The Patriot
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  Your Advice Needed! What Appears Like My Only Way Out....

  by drew sagan in

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  well gang, let me tell you a little bit about what is going on in my world.

  for about the past 2 years i've gone through all the formations and as many of you have known from reading my posts i've pretty much have moved way beyond the watchtower in my mind many months ago.

  coming to this board has helped with the process much, as well as getting my hands on alot of good reading material.

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  thecarpenter

  What might also help to to get material (pictures as a example) http://www.freeminds.org/history/cemetary.htm of the Watchtowers past and stick them in the den or leave them around the house. I have a few pictures of Russells pyramid and charts, one of them waiting to go to
  heaven
  

  Also, you might want a copy of all the child molestation news video on your desktop
  http://www.silentlambs.org/education/multimedia.cfm, audio downloaded at the freeminds.org website
  http://www.freeminds.org/wav/wav.htm
  from various talks including the 1975 incident.

  In addition, pick up several books (do it slowly so not to overwhelm her); personally,
  I picked up the two Franz books, the Olof book on the gentile times
  reconsidered, Expecting Armageddon by Jon R. Stone (basically a collection of
  essays by different researchers on various religious sects (most prominently the
  JW's) and the psychology of why people stay, absolutely amazing.... There are
  plenty of books out their, pick and choose which ones sound good.

  But from a practical stand point, she needs a support structure; without that,
  she will feel lost. Start developing friends outside the organization.
  What has really helped me was the support of my non-witness brother and his wife
  who listened to my vents and offered non judgmental support. At this point
  I plan on looking into nondenominational churches and a complete reading of the
  Greek scriptures and then the whole bible. I am also going back to college
  and taking a few courses, your wife may want a try at that.

  As Finally-Free mentioned

  Whatever you decide, the more you are
  involved with the JWs the more difficult it will be to leave. If you plan to
  leave, I strongly suggest both you and your wife develop a real-life support
  network of non JWs.

  I like what lovelylil done

  One thing I did learn was to take the
  time to find out what I really believed in. I simply told my hubby that I would
  respect his beliefs but that I needed a short time to figure out what I believed
  because I did not know at that point. I asked for some personal space. Then, I
  did not try to attack his belief in the JWs at all. Once I felt sure of what I
  believed and why then I went to my hubby and told him. It was still hard. He
  went crazy and threatened me with divorce. But, I told him that was his decision
  and I was in no way advocating it. And I gave him time to calm down and just
  kept treating him with respect. After that, as opportunity came up, I would ask
  him Q's that would make him think.

  All this advice sounds good to me
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  Where have you pulled a girl or a guy?

  by Spectrum in

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  2. relationships

  this is a kind of a branch from my previous thread.

  what interesting places have you asked a girl or a guy out that you took a fancy to?

  most of mine were in college.

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  thecarpenter

  this is just a test

  Please ignore

  this is just a test
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  Where have you pulled a girl or a guy?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  this is a kind of a branch from my previous thread.

  what interesting places have you asked a girl or a guy out that you took a fancy to?

  most of mine were in college.

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  thecarpenter

  just
  a
  test
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  Brain Science Teaches You How to Fade Away As a JW!!!!

  by metatron in

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  so, you feel trapped as jehovah's witness and want to get out, but don't know how?

  you keep agonizing about your witness family.

  and "friends" ( trust me, very few witnesses are really your friends, since their friendship is entirely conditional on meeting attendance.

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  thecarpenter

  hey metatron I'm curious as to where you found this material from (what publication). I would like to follow up on in. I'm reading the book 'Expecting Armaggedon - essential readings in failed prophecy' edited by Jon R. Stone.... what a fasinating book. Your findings would help to explain the reasoning of people who continue to believe in a false prophets (any false prophet from any religion) despite solid empirical evidence to the contrary. thanks
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  Life IN or Out of JW's suck

  by Smoky in

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  i've been keeping tabs on my old congregation for the last 3+ years (i dont even remember when was the last time i went to a meeting) it is not easy, i have joined a site named 'bebo' and have a handfull of so called 'friends' in my network.

  mostly from my old congregation, they seem to acknowledge my existence, but keep there distance.

  no one ever invites me to anything or to hang out.. time flies and things change.

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  thecarpenter

  I couldn't agree more with the various replies. Ask yourself, what 2 things could I be doing that can have a significant impact on my life? Then ask yourself, why am I not doing them? You need to take control of your life and you can do it man.
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  How "Stupid" are you?

  by JH in

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  http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=14964688665927201537

  my results .

  door knob!.

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  thecarpenter

  meh, you're alright. WOW! You're this dumb: 21%! You're all right in my book, still alot dumber then you should be, but not a complete waste of space. Take pride in the fact that your still smarter then most people. i guess that means that 79% of my brain is working... I wonder what the GB's would score??? I wonder if it is more fun being a doorknob or a complete waste of space???
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  How long did it take you to get over it?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  one of the posters here - before i knew she was a poster here - in fact before i knew of this site at all, sent me an email early on in my exit.

  she likened the whole leaving thing with grieving over a dead loved one - said it took most about two years to work thru all the phases of that loss - denial, anger, etc.. i think she had it about right - that's about how long it took me.

  but without jwd it would have been longer.

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  thecarpenter

  Well, I'd say I went through a prolonged and painful leaving process. I noticed things weren't a 100% in the late eighties and everything just got worse from there. I finally started separating myself emotionally around 1999 to now. (I felt the disllusionment around the late 90's and the anger for the last few years. Bear in mind I wasn't getting involved in discussion boards until this year unfortunately. If I had been a bit more diligent earlier on, I could have saved myself alot of grief. I look back now and have to shake my head and wonder how I could have been so blind. But for what it's worth, I'm glad I separated myself and life really has been alot better.
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  Last Resting Place of Charles Taze Russell

  by Dr Jekyll in

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  i was doing a bit of research for the apostate team that's going to circumcise the top of russell's pyramid by taking its top off and making off with it.

  checking out some maps of the location i fired up google earth.

  for those of you who want to see this do the following make sure you have "google earth community (unranked)" ticked on the left hand side in the layers section.

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  thecarpenter

  Please don't damage the tombstone, it serves as a example of how cultish and wild the societies roots are and also a wakeup call for all JW's to look into the organization's past. If you damage the tombstone, it takes away a little of that evidence of the societies past. One day this year I will go to Penn to take pictures to show some of the friends (I'm still in the organization).