Well, I working on a video about people who left the witnesses and why they left. Since I'm going to be in it and be filming it, they (the local elders) will go after me so I will have my DA letter ready.
The film won't be finished until early next year maybe sooner. So far we interviewed three people and will be interviewing several more before we hit the edit room. It is a student film for a university in New York and we were given 2 grants to work on it. I'll let everyone know more about it later.
Thecarpenter aka thestudent
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Going over to CT Russell's tomb, anybody want any closeups? Requests?
by thecarpenter ini'm working on a video of jw beliefs with another ex-jw.
we are going to shoot some footage of russell's tombstone and pyramid and also going to interview a jwd'er about his exit.
i was wondering if any of you have any "reasonable" requests?
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well, I do plan on taking a lot of high resolution pictures (10 megapixel) and to film the whole thing in High definition. I will pay particular attention to the watchtower logos. I also noticed that there are other pyramids in the area so I'll take some photos of them as well. I'll try to shoot from a lot of different angles and with multiple flashes. Hopefully I won't get chased away. As for the other stuff, well I don't blame Russell for what happened, he didn't intimidate people to stay and seemed like a broken man when his 1914 prophecy failed. I'm actually more angry at Rutherford, Knorr and particularly Franz for making the religion more cultish and punitive (Franz's doing - the punitive part). But Russell is interesting history that most witnesses don't know fully about. It is kind of sad really when you think about it.
I'll bring all the pictures at the next ex-JW meetup group this saturday.
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Blonde, Brunette, Redhead? Do you have a favorite?
by Paralipomenon inthis is a fun question that i like to pose in social settings.
regardless of who your significant other is, i've found that people have a definite preference for hair color.
what i found even more interesting is that people usually preferred a hair color different than their own.
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Blonde, brunette, redhead women, how can you choose... especially if they got it it the right places... this is a hard questions...
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Going over to CT Russell's tomb, anybody want any closeups? Requests?
by thecarpenter ini'm working on a video of jw beliefs with another ex-jw.
we are going to shoot some footage of russell's tombstone and pyramid and also going to interview a jwd'er about his exit.
i was wondering if any of you have any "reasonable" requests?
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I'm working on a video of JW beliefs with another ex-jw. We are going to shoot some footage of Russell's tombstone and pyramid and also going to interview a JWD'er about his exit. I was wondering if any of you have any "reasonable" requests? No, I will not deface it (I want if preserved for posterity). I plan on taking multiple pictures from all sides and closeups. I will also film it. thecarpenter aka spielburg
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JW Convention week...pure hades.
by Sparkplug inthe jw lady i work with went to summer convention last week and the following days were pure sheeeeite.
all week i could hear her a row over trying to fill everyone with her crazy spirit.
i could not find my mp# until thursday and by then i was totally pissed off.
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My mom started preaching to me when I visit her but then I started preaching back all the underhanded things the society does. Everytime she preaches to me, I preach back. She doesn't preach to me that much any more. As for your coworker, start printing out the junk about the society from newspapers. Also if you have a laptop, download the videos on silentlambs and show them to her and your coworkers. That should shut her up, maybe even get her to investigate.
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That Voice...My Story
by Confession inwhy doesnt he just talk to me later?
i dont really talk about this much, but i just dont get it.
he seems confident that eventually ill understand him.
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Confession, loved your story... you are a gifted writer. It's amazing how people slowly discover the duplicity of the organization, you wonder later why you didn't see it sooner. I think that we want to believe, everlasting life in a paradise earth is quite a attractive picture, you just want to believe it. Oh well...
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Hi to Everyone
by DawnLS620 inmy name is dawn and i'm a ex-jw, who has been out since l976.
i live in michigan, was born and raised here but also spent about 3 years in austin, texas (1 of them as a witness - the other two running amouk having fun).
i just spent the last 2 1/2 hours on the phone with my dear old buddy, dave, (seven006) whom i've heard some of you know.
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Good to have you here, I sure you will enjoy your stay. Check out Amazings thread, Lit toes, Honesty, AlanF and so one (I love reading how various folks discovered the truth is not the truth)
Anyway, welcome aboard!
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Why are congregations dissolved?
by mtsgrad inonly once in my life have i heard of a congregation being dissolved (closed down) for reasons of sin.. .
has anyone here heard of congs being closed down?
how often does it happen?
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This has been happening a lot in NYC, low attendence in some of the congregations. What they do is merge one congregation with another. If a congreation is having a lot of problems, sometimes they will also dissolve it (heard of one congregation in long Island with a lot of molestation going on years back that they dissolved but I don't know how factual that is, my friend may be exaggerating)
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Why 'Determined to Be Rich' Advice is Wrong
by metatron inwhen a witness or ex-witness seeks investment in real estate or the stock market, they often hear .
the annoying advice about those "determined to be rich" ( 1 tim 6:9).
for most of us, this is nonsense.. when this scripture was written, was there a stable financial system that serviced rich and poor alike?.
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too many elders misapply this scripture. Even the publications go to extreme with it. I presently view it as a nudge not to be overly consumed with the acquistion of wealth. Greedy people compromise on things they shouldn't in order to gain wealth quickly. As Terry mentioned, leading a productive life leads to greater happiness and flexiblity. One of the things that bugged me while I was a witness was the fact that too many people were living hand to mouth, struggling from one financial distaster to another. That made me determined to make the most of my situation, if I was going to work 40 hours, I wanted to get paid the most I can for those 40 hours. This mindset has served me well.
Another thing that concerned me was the idea that preparing for retirement was somehow wrong. Since one had to ensconce themselves in the WT 'last days' mindset, it discouraged people from fully looking into their retirement options. One long time elder and recent senior citzen said to me a few years ago that he couldn't afford to retire. This guy was a regional building committee overseer and spent his whole life volunteering and now will have to work in his senior years doing back breaking work (he's a bricklayer). Nice man but foolish.
There are too many people that I know who are in this same situation.
Some financial prudence is necessary, people should start looking into 401k's and Roth ira's. Although it can be a bit boring, learning how to invest long term can make a world of difference. Taking control of your financial health is almost as important as taking care of your physical health.
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Abstain from.... things strangled
by drew sagan innot to long ago a saw a post floating around that had some comments discussing how the wts has basically never really given any opinion on what it means to abstain from things strangled as described in acts 15. we all know that thousands upon thousands of things have been said about 'blood' as mentioned in that passage, but in searching through the literature i have found nothing that describes 'things strangled'.
is there anywhere in the literature that goes into detail on this at all?
or do they refuse to give comments on this at all?
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Is this the same as choking the chicken?