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  "FLUFF" Things I do in the shower-------------

  by vitty in

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  now i cant be the only person who does 2 things at once eg eat and post on jwd but-----------.

  -----------while im having a shower i use a conditioner in my hair that you have to leave on for 2 minutes, so a person who doesnt like wasting time, while i wait i spray the shower and doors with cleaner wash the floor with a sponge with my feet.

  then when ive rinsed my hair i rinse down the shower and hey presto a sparkling shower !

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  lovelylil

  I brush my teeth while in the shower. Also shave my legs and uhm......... other things.
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  Why tortured to death?

  by Gill in

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  if jesus only 'had to die' to redeem the whole human race, why then did he have to be tortured to death?.

  was that really necessary, and what sick mind decreed that it was necessary?

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  Forscher,

  Good response. Christ had to die to remove the curse of death from mankind. Anytime you are flogged and hung on a cross, it is not supposed to be a picnic. But do we know exactly how much Christ was tortured? No. Was it an easy death? No. We only have the details in scripture. Contrary to what people believe, the answers to why Christ died the way he did is in the bible it is in Isaiah chapter 53
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  Do Individual JWs Pay For The Publications They Distribute?

  by Joe Grundy in

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  excuse my ignorance, and i've read on boards about the us not selling/inviting contributions issue, but do individuals jws in effect pay for the publications they give out?

  if so, is that only for their magazines or for hardback books as well?

  how is this organised, please?.

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  In countries other than the US, they still pay a certain fee per each magazine, book, etc.

  In other words wherever the huge publishing company know as the Watchtower can charge without being subject to taxes, they do charge. If they have to pay tax, it is a voluntary donation with "suggested" prices listed in the KMs.
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  If the Bible is in such a mess is the Quoran God's final version?

  by Spectrum in

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  at least this is what the muslims claim.

  until i had come on this forum i didn't have a clue as to what complex and convoluted problems biblical text offers upon scholarly examination.

  i never took the muslim claim seriously i was quite derisory about the whole thing but now i have to give it more thought.

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  I have read the Qu'ran, it borrows much from the bible. The bible I believe is older. Also, under the Qu'ran you are enslaved to laws again. Why do you think the bible is such a mess?
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  Need Some Advice Please

  by lovelylil in

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  as you know i have been posting for a while now and i want to say i am really enjoying it.

  i love everyone here!

  i have noticed many great minds out there and i am in need of some advice, i am looking for some ideas on how to handle a situation.. i left the wt with my family about two years ago now.

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  Hi Tea,

  She does have a job but it is as a Nanny so she is only around young kids. I recomended that she join a club or do volunteer work in the community. That way she can make other friends. I have made numerous other friends in the two years including families I met thru the kid's schools (her kids are grown), my new church, my nieghbors, my hubby's job.

  We are actually invited in July to a really high end wedding in Rhode Island for a friend of my hubby at work. My hubby knew this guy only about a year and not everyone was invited from work but hubby has been a good friend of this guy. Since my hubby is older, he has taken the new guy under his wing. So, it shows my hubby has moved on too becasue two years ago, he would not have done this. BTW, my hubby works in the same building as his old best friend, who is still a JW and shuns my hubby. My hubby NEVER mentions him at all.

  Anyway, I met most of the staff at my hubby's job last year for the first time (although this is his 6th year there) because we went to the xmas party. Anyway, this wedding is the type of wedding you have to stay overnight for as there are "after wedding parties" planned. I am so looking forward to it. The problem with this lady is, she would never go to something like this, she still feels it is a sin to go into churches. Because I suggested that she go to functions with her hubby and meet new people. I invited her to my grand nieces baptism and she would not go to the church. She went to the party though and complained the whole time. People got up and left our table. Now, when she tries to invite herself to my family functions I just say, sorry it is for family only.

  I think she still is stuck in JW mode. But she is in limbo really. She doesn't want to go back she says but is not moving forward.
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  Need Some Advice Please

  by lovelylil in

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  as you know i have been posting for a while now and i want to say i am really enjoying it.

  i love everyone here!

  i have noticed many great minds out there and i am in need of some advice, i am looking for some ideas on how to handle a situation.. i left the wt with my family about two years ago now.

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  LL,

  Thanks a lot. I was hoping you would wiegh in this morning. She is coming by later today so I may try to bring it up again. I have not written things down but will do that before she comes over. I will let you know what happens. Thanks again everyone, I knew I could count on you guys.
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  The "study" went GREAT, my mom NOW has questions!!!!

  by FreedomFrog in

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  ok, as some of you know, i was suppose to have a "study" with my mom and an elders wife yesterday.

  well, the elders wife couldn't make it because "something came up".

  i guess it was more important than my salvation.. anyway, i still went to my parents house.

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  Good news about your mom. My advice though is to stay on biblical topics at first. Because if you mention the Malawi thing too early, then she will know what your intentions are and she will say that you only asked about the 700 vrs. 7000 to tear down her confidence in the bible. You need to still make it look like you truly want answers to bible questions Here are some things you can ask about, maybe others can help too.

  Ask her why the 144,000 is a literal number but in the SAME paragraph, the description that they are all Jews is only symbolic? Bring out that it should be both literal or both symbolic.

  Ask her how you know the faithful slave has been appointed based on Matthew 24:45, when Jesus was just asking "who is the faithful servant?"

  Ask her if she can tell you how she knows for sure that the faithful slave are all anointed? See if she can point to biblical proof or do you just have to take the word of people you don't know?

  Ask what scriptures the society uses to enforce the rules about handing in field service reports to the elders, attending five meetings a week, having a mandatory ministry school, etc.

  Also, ask what scriptual backing is there for the term "governing body", when Jesus said we all all "brothers".

  I know you want to prove the bible has holes in it. But I think this is the best way to start off. Although I believe in God and the Bible, I can agree that not every word or comma was hand written by God. And there are things in it that are men's ideas and beliefs. You have to take into consideration to who the books where written for (the audience) and why. And take it all in context. These are things the cults do not do. Anyway, good luck. Lilly
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  Brazilian man murder 5 JW

  by rosa in

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  the mototaxi valdimar lindoso, 34, was imprisoned in instant in the dawn of this wednesday, sao luis (ma), accused to kill the shots the son erick ricardo matos, 7, the former-woman helen rose matos, 31, the former-father-in-law, the former-mother-in-law and a former-brother-in-law.

  the former-brother-in-law eliana rosely matos, 24, also was reached with a shot in the mouth.. .... "on the motivation of the crime, it it spoke that the victims were of the religion jehovah's witnesses and he did not want that the son was part.

  he said that was pursued [for the family of the former-woman] and that they made a wrong judgment of it ", said commission agent pierson raimundo rodrigues, who will go to lead the inquiry.. .

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  Thanks Rosa,

  Welcome to the board!
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  Time to take a break, see you all in a few months.

  by nicolaou in

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  it's not a big deal, i'm just going to bugger off for a while.. i feel myself becoming tetchy and impatient and that's just not the person i want to be.

  i'm taking the family away for two weeks in the cypriot sun in july/august so i'll use the time from now till then to mellow out and chill down a bit.

  see you all again when i'm tanned and relaxed.. have a good summer everyone!.

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  lovelylil

  Have a great summer, enjoy yourself with your family and come back with a banging tan!
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  Need Some Advice Please

  by lovelylil in

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  as you know i have been posting for a while now and i want to say i am really enjoying it.

  i love everyone here!

  i have noticed many great minds out there and i am in need of some advice, i am looking for some ideas on how to handle a situation.. i left the wt with my family about two years ago now.

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  Thanks everyone.

  I don't mind my friend complaining sometimes. I vent about my hubby too or kids but nothing in this gals life seems good. I think she is still attached to the Org. too. Because every time she sees an old friend from the hall, she gets all excited, even though they don't want anything to do with her and shun her. I really think she is living in the past and if she can move on, she will be less nagative.

  Whenever I try to give her advice she gives me a long list of why it won't work for her. She tells me I don't understand because I am not in her shoes. I can understand that in a way but I have been in extremely negative environments growing up because Mom was an alchoholic and dad was abusive. But I was still not as negative as this person.

  And the things she brings up in front of my kids is totally unappropriate. Like she will talk about what is wrong with her sex life in front of my 11 and 13 year old. Also she mentions the people who are shunning us and my kids were friends with their kids for a long time. So every time she brings it up, it is like pouring salt in the kids wounds. When I told her my kids thought she was mean, she said "thats why they shouldn't be around all the time listening to what we are talking about". I agree but they live here too. And I am a stay at home mom which means kids are around me most of the time. I don't leave them with sitters unless it is family because they both have severe allegies and my son has an epipen.

  Anyway, I think I will invite her over for coffee this morning and try to talk to her. I will bring it up in a way to show I am concerned that she is not moving on. Her family lives a couple states away which does not help the situation. But, she has to join a group and make other friends too and try to work on her marriage I think. All that negativety is not good for your health. I will let you all know what happened.