the link below leads to a webpage for a play entitled it's not too late: a christian drama/musical inspired by the columbine tragedy.. here is the synopsis of the play:.
the story takes place during one day at a high school.. .
mr. brooks is the custodian of the high school.
*Sigh.*
Believe what you want. A God who commands his people to murder and rape is protecting his people from murder and rape. Great. Whatever. Have fun worshipping your big God in the sky, and give Jesus a big kiss on the lips for me when you see him, okay?
Dedalus
hey, jehovah the god of jws gets trashed big time here, he gets called all kinds of names, he gets his face rubbed in the gutter all the time.
now, this is somebody's god!
but no matter, it is allowed!.
Hey, Jehovah the God of JWs gets trashed big time here, he gets called all kinds of names, he gets his face rubbed in the gutter all the time. Now, this is somebody's God! But no matter, it is allowed!But now if somebody calls a fellow poster a fucking jackass or something else, that is not allowed? Why?!
Jehover God is a fictional character. That's why.
Dedalus
here is a link to a current discussion about the intellectual dishonesty of the society in their awake!
magazine.. http://www.randi.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002422.
enjoy!.
Great thread over there! Here are my favorite quotes:
Now, I dont mean to hijack this thread to talk about my own personal woes.. just wanted to say that I've had more experience than most with witnesses and in the end my impression is the witnesses themselves are just like any other people.. or they would be.. if their organization didn't feed them with what seems to me to be a twisted us vs them view of the world.
The scary thing about the witness organization to me is the way it acts like its own court, punishing offenses (like smoking) through humiliation and shaming, as well as the threat of shunning. The whole thing looks alot like one big guilt trip/fear motivation where the prize is glorious everlasting life and the penalty is a cold and lonely death.
How come in the Watchtower all of the pictures of biblical events feature caucasian women with '80s style big hair, and caucasian men who have beards that wouldn't be out of place in "Monty Python's The Life of Brian"?
If we ever do actually get visited by aliens the first thing they will say is "Oh you got Jehoves too huh?."
I don't really see how, in this day and age, door to door JW's make sense. I don't understand what person in their right mind would invite strangers into their house (or frankly even open the door for them) just because they say they are JW's. They could just as easily be maniacs who will kill you once you let them inside.DedalusJW's should get with the times and start doing their thing online.
twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.
" in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.
in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.
ironically, we were discussing the watchman who stays awake night and day.. anyway, something was said that made me awaken and pay careful attention.
please, if anyone else who got this same information at their book study, please share it.. here goes:.
there was a picture of a man standing on the watchtower keeping on the look out.
Gozz,
Jehovah is a soul-raping, woman-hating, sadistic son of a bitch, a lousy absentee father, a hateful fucking idiot, a half-wit, an emotional wreck, and a complete royal asshole. His best quality, though, is that he's a complete work of fiction!
Just wanted to "share."
Dedalus
twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.
" in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.
in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.
Tallyman, you're a bore.
Dedalus
the link below leads to a webpage for a play entitled it's not too late: a christian drama/musical inspired by the columbine tragedy.. here is the synopsis of the play:.
the story takes place during one day at a high school.. .
mr. brooks is the custodian of the high school.
And so, though your questions are important, I think the more crucial questions are these:
Again, Mr. Lentz tap dances around the issues put to him.
1. What happened to the perfect world described in Genesis 2 and 3?Well, today seems a far cry from any sort of "perfect world." It's worth mentioning that, in those celebrated first 3 chapters of Genesis, there are some blatant contradictions about how God made that world. Also, that "perfect" world had some pretty arbitrary, senseless rules, like "Do not eat from this tree blah blah blah." Looks to me like God, with all his infinite foresight, was setting mankind up from the get-go.
2. Is today's world what God intended it to be, or is the world in the first 3 chapters and the last 3 chapters of the Bible more representative of God's intent?You miss the fundamental irony of this question: How could God's will ever fall short of his intention? How could a perfect God, an omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent God, fail to follow through on his intention? The very question you ask presupposes that your perfect God has failed at someting. There are two possibilities explanations for this: 1) It was never God's intention to create a "perfect" world; or 2) God is not omnipotent, omniscient, or omnibenevolent.
3. If today's world is not what God intended it to be, what if anything has God done about it?Let me rephrase the question according to my answer to #2: "Since God has messed up and failed in his purpose, what has he been doing to correct his mistakes?"
The answer seems pretty clear: nothing. I know you're going to invoke the holy name of Jesus now, and talk about his great sacrifice, but even if all that is true, which I doubt it is, it's been over 2000 years since then, and is the world yet the "perfect world" that God "intended"?
Have you read the Grand Inquisitor section of The Brothers Karamazov?
Dedalus
twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.
" in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.
in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.
Mindchild,
I hate people who make up or quote self-help lists, and I especially hate people who use or quote made-up internet-savvy words like "Netiquette"! Fuck you, you animal asshole, you bastard piece of shit!
(Oh yeah, and I hate those assholes who resort to emoticons, those sons of bitches!)
Dedalus
i'd be interested in hearing some of the exjw's door-to-door experiences.
i've probably had the saturday morning door knocking...maybe 6-8 times.
i've never been "rude" except for once...when i had a particularly aggressive pair who wouldn't take "no thank you" for an answer.
Toward the end of my JW tenure my presentation had basically been pared down to something closely resembling the following:
"Hi, my name is Dedalus, and I'm here offering you these magazines, but you're probably not interested, so have a nice day."
Dedalus
the link below leads to a webpage for a play entitled it's not too late: a christian drama/musical inspired by the columbine tragedy.. here is the synopsis of the play:.
the story takes place during one day at a high school.. .
mr. brooks is the custodian of the high school.
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