Posts by Anitar

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JWs Egged Our House and Yanked Out Our "Frosty"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Lady Liberty in

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friends

hello everyone.."happy new years"!.

well, we had a wonderful first christmas, filled with lots of family and friends.

unfortunately though our neighbors who are active jws..(who are approx.

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You know, this might sound like I'm stating the obvious, but I can't help it. Jehovah Witnesses are the most immature people I have ever met. I never thought such childish and vindictive people existed in this world. I suppose they never should have left kindergarten.

These people pass themselves off as "true christians," when they're incapable of just being mature adults. It's like the organization is their mommy and they're getting back at you by egging your house and destroying your snowman. You know what this tells you? That they spend most of their time stewing in their own filthy hatred of everything outside the Watchtower, especially apostates. They're probably also jealous of you for having a Christmas party out in the open and being happy with your family, when they party for New Years and get drunk in secret.

Over the last five years my mom as been a JW, I've lost track of how many of my crosses, flags, Christmas presents, and decorations have all been destroyed by my mom and her friends. Sure, I called the cops, but they didn't believe me and I don't blame them. Who would believe it?

Lady Liberty, I suggest you write a letter to your local newspaper as many here have suggested, and make special note of how much you pity them, that will send a clear message to the people of your community. They may not understand Jehovah Witnesses, but they certainly will understand a group of childish losers who could not be further from the real message of Jesus Christ.

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"Every lie is an untruth, but not every untruth is a lie"

by becca1 in

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friends

so says the february 1st 2007 watchtower in bold print on page 6.. the name of the article is: why be truthful?.

under the subheading, what is a lie?

it reads:"every lie is an untruth, but not every untruth is a lie.

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Well, well, well. Who could have seen this coming? When one deals with the Watchtower as long as we have, one learns that there are no such thing as coincidences.

In the wake of the failed, hypocritical tract campaign in October, they have to find some way to cover their asses. This has been planned for over a year in advance. By cooking up their own definition of a lie, they can decide when to break their own rules.

The Watchtower is strapped for cash and the pedophile defense fund is rapidly drying up. Bottom line, they're panicking. With all the news coverage of their infinite indescretions, the government will notice them sooner or later and go for their throat. They're a dying cult that has spent over one hundred years masquerading as a religion when their only interest is real estate and laundering vast sums of money.

Fear is the only valuable asset they have left. They used the fear of an armageddon that's always around the corner, but never in reality. Just a few short months after the October campaign, they're already retracting their statements, and their next step will probably be to blame the rank and file for their "over-enthusiasm."

Mike is right, they are liars. The Watchtower's problem is that they actually believe their own bullshit. I wouldn't be surprised if by next October they will have forgotten this ever happened.

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YOU "THINK" YOU KNOW.....BUT...YOU DON'T KNOW!!

by Terry in

the door to door work is a sham.. the central activity of the watchtower bible and tract society is not spreading their so-called "messege" about the kingdom of jehovah established in the heavens in 1914. that's a load of propaganda.. the door to door activity is feckless in producing converts.

in fact, it is an immense failure of mammoth proportions!.

but, it is a diversion.

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Hey Mike, I didn't forget you...

Happy New Year

Take care of yourself.

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YOU "THINK" YOU KNOW.....BUT...YOU DON'T KNOW!!

by Terry in

the door to door work is a sham.. the central activity of the watchtower bible and tract society is not spreading their so-called "messege" about the kingdom of jehovah established in the heavens in 1914. that's a load of propaganda.. the door to door activity is feckless in producing converts.

in fact, it is an immense failure of mammoth proportions!.

but, it is a diversion.

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Hi Jeff, Happy New Year!

Terry, let me say, magnificent post. I have been trying to develop the perfect five minute summary of the Watchtower for years that is direct to the point, undeniable to a Jehovah Witness, and yet simple enough for a total stranger to understand.

I do have one observation to point out however. You mentioned that other religions have to disclose their finances in order to justify keeping their clergy or ministers living in luxury. I don't believe this is the case with the majority of ministers. Yes there are some wealthy bishops, but you might consider that certain religions are associated with certain social classes. For example, many upper class people prefer Protestant or Episcopal faiths, the middle classes tend to be Catholic or Lutheran, while the lower classes are Baptist or Methodist. I don't mean to insult you or anyone else, nor do I want to generalize anyone. Of course, we are all individuals. I merely speak from a sociological point of view.

As you stated earlier, it's hard to follow the financial status of the Watchtower. If a Jehovah Witness is rich, they probably spend and invest all of their money and resources in the organizaton. Most of the rank and file are poor, in many more ways than one. I'd just like to say that I'm not an expert on other religions, but all of the priests I have met while I have been a Catholic have all been poor, and very charitable and hardworking in the community.

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Need Help With Mexico/ Malawi!!

by Anitar in

huge news everyone!

i recently had a breakthrough with my mom.

we were debating last night for several hours, during which time brought up the mexico/malawi situation, which she of course being a faithful and blind witness, knew nothing about.

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Thank you everyone for your help! However, Rockhound, I don't think the link is working...

I think the trick is to show her from the best educational point of view possible. For so many witnesses, they think you're attacking them, when in reality you're trying to help them. She seems incapable of examining her beliefs from a logical point of view when I talk to her. She adores the organization and the dominance it has over her so much, it prevents her from thinking critically.

In a sense, I have to get her head out of the clouds and back down to earth.

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Need Help With Mexico/ Malawi!!

by Anitar in

huge news everyone!

i recently had a breakthrough with my mom.

we were debating last night for several hours, during which time brought up the mexico/malawi situation, which she of course being a faithful and blind witness, knew nothing about.

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Huge news everyone! I recently had a breakthrough with my mom. We were debating last night for several hours, during which time brought up the Mexico/Malawi situation, which she of course being a faithful and blind witness, knew nothing about. After appealing to the best of my knowledge to whatever common sense she has left, she finally agreed that if I can prove it to her, she would look at the evidence. She confidently reassured me that it never happened simply because she doesn't believe the GB would ever do that. So before she forgets, she needs to hear the facts. Now I desperately need to know about this because if anyone is familiar with my mom, they know how monumental this is. Here's what I need to know.

1) The complete account of what, when, how and why regarding what happened in Mexico and Malawi. It's been a while since I read Ray Franz's book and I can't remember exactly what happened.

2) Any possible excuses or "explanitions" the watchtower might have wrote in their literature. She needs to see proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that the watchtower is guilty of thousands of senseless deaths.

3) What is the best way to show her this information? She is 100 percent convinced that the Governing Body is the mouthpeice of God and I'm afraid this will cause her very serious emotional distress! How do I present the facts in a clear and unbiasd manner?

Thank you everyone so much, I appreciate anything you can give me. I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I can't help but to be excited, she even said she wants to know more about the United Nations scandal too! But that's a different subject. I know I'm treading on very thin ice right now. If she suspects "aposate" material (her words, not mine) than she'll shut down and never listen to me again. Thanks!

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What Do You Know About Wicca?

by Anitar in

for as long as i can remember, i think wicca is one of the most misunderstood of all religions.

last week, in my nature writing and literature class, a friend of mine gave a presentation of the history of wicca and an explanation of their beliefs.

basically in a nutshell, she said that wicca's believe that everything in life goes in a circle, from the life and death cycle to the calendar of holidays they celebrate.. i asked several questions, mainly trying to determine if they are a cult like the watchtower.

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For as long as I can remember, I think Wicca is one of the most misunderstood of all religions. Last week, in my Nature Writing and Literature class, a friend of mine gave a presentation of the history of Wicca and an explanation of their beliefs. Basically in a nutshell, she said that Wicca's believe that everything in life goes in a circle, from the life and death cycle to the calendar of holidays they celebrate.

I asked several questions, mainly trying to determine if they are a cult like the Watchtower. But they don't do anything like them. There's no shunning, no disfellowshipping, no elders. In fact, most Wicca's lead pretty normal lives and go to school and work like the rest of us.

It seems that many organizations, especially the Jehovah Witnesses, say so many bad things about Wicca's, like they worship the devil and have sex-worship orgies, and none of it is true. In fact, they don't even believe in the devil.

So my question is, what is the real truth? Does anyone here know anything about Wicca or witchcraft because I'm tired of hearing so many bad or superstitious things about them. I would appreciate any input if someone is familiar with them. Thanks!

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What JW's think people think of them...lol

by loosie in

i got this email and i thought i would share.

i got a chuckle out of it.

at morning worship with the bethel family, bro.

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Sure, that's how real people talk. Of course I want my children to be just like the JW's. There so well behaved, and not at all like robots or manequins!

By the way all you Watchtower lurkers, that was a little thing we use in the real world called sarcasam.

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transcript of a disfellowship appeal meeting -they can get you for anything

by jwfacts in

i have just received the transcript of the disfellowship appeal meeting from a person i know from a recording he took.

it is quite typical in the condescension of the elders.

unfortunately he did not record the initial meeting.

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You know, I'm starting to sense a pattern here. It all starts with gossip. One "friend" rats on another "friend." With all the backstabbing and mock trials going on, you would think they get off on destroying each other.

It seems the decision is always already made for them to get rid of the "wrongdoer." Next step is they open with a lukewarm-half assed prayer. Did anyone ever tell them that not every word in the bible is a prayer? Any idiot can take a verse out of context and twist it to fit their argument.

Then the elders lay the smackdown. DumDumDum! This is where I try not to laugh. They take themselves so seriously! Ohh, apostasy! Ohh, independent thought! AAKK!! Kill it before it spreads!

They proceed to distract you with a lame comparison to a drug dealer or an alcoholic, circumvent their own rules as well as the bible's, toss common sense and logic happily out the window, then finish off by throwing insults cleverly disguised as "spiritual guidance" until someone gets pissed off and walks away. I'm temped to say that they might as well get a monkey to conduct this meeting, but I don't want to insult the monkeys.

Oh, by the way, haven't you heard? The elders know what you're thinking. It's all part of their package-deal communication with God.

And then we come to pornography

Please forgive me, I just couldn't resist...

"Brother NoName, you have been charged with renting a copy of Pootie Tang from Blockbuster seven years ago. We have this on good authority from Jehovah that you took said video back to your home where you proceeded to abandon the use of your God given female spouse and engage in self abuse, or pummel yourself! How do you plead!?"

"Ah, ElderNoBrain, how do you know all that?"

"Oh, it's quite simple really. At the moment you were baptized, you were secretly drugged and while you were asleep we surgically implanted a GPS tracking device in your penis. This has a direct link to Jehovah, and of course, he only shares this link with us. Now, should you be proven guilty of these charges, which of course you already have, you will be faced with disfellowshipment. Don't worry, that's a real word. We totally didn't make that up."

"Than how come it's not in any dictionaries?"

"Because we haven't told the worldly people how to spell it. As I was saying, you are guilty of masturbation, which is one of the most hideous sex practices that Satan ever invented to lure honest hearted ones away from the truth. This vile and depraved practice- -"

"Um, ElderNoBrain, what's that under your foot?"

"What!? Pay no attention to the underage girl under the table!"

(readjusts himself) "As I was saying, based on this charge, you have been deemed spiritually weak and therefore must be expelled from the organization and we are to have no further contact with you, except once. Before Armageddon comes, please do us the favor of leaving your house in our name as I'm sure you'll be pre-occupied with the crows pecking away at your rotting carcass. It would really save us the trouble as most of us will be too busy with bone raking duty! Take care now!"

Have I made my point?

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Kingdom Hall shooting

by Stealth in

sad to see people so effected by this religon that they resort to violence.

i was glad to here no one was fatally ingured.

.

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I feel really bad for the woman who was shot.

The gunman might have been a father whose daughter was raped by a Jehovah Witness. I could definitely see someone doing that. Usually I don't condone violence, so hopefully he will be caught so we can see why he did it.

Unfortunately, this will only add to their persecution complex.

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