Posts by Fleshybirdfodder

i'm thinking along the lines of "i just don't believe that the society/gb is god's representative on earth" and see if he presses further.. suggestions, anyone?.

Fleshybirdfodder

LOTS of things... but if I had to pick just one? Being able to sleep in on Saturdays instead of pestering people who wanted to talk about religion early Saturday morning even less than I did.

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How did the WT art affect you? Did you find subliminal WT art as a JW?

by freetosee in

i was always impressed by the art in wt literature, especially by pictures of the throne of god, heaven and angels, the visions of daniel and revelation.

these added in deepening my acceptance and understanding of wt teaching.

the earthly hope was very appealing to me, yet i whished to be able to go to heaven for a short time just to see the spirit realm and then return to live in earthly paradise.

My fav was The Revelation Climax pic where the great dragon is hurled into the sea and on one side all the happy dubs and on the other the worldings, yelling with contorted faces, wearing headbands and waving sticks.

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Is there a better way to convince family?

by happysunshine in

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i've been thinking about this a lot.

i think a lot of people are like me (especially after researching the witnesses via sources like this board), in that they attempt to convince their family, weather directly or indirectly, that the wts is wrong.

while there is a possibility of this working, the chances seem small, at least for dyed in the wool witness families.

Fleshybirdfodder

I agree, direct pressure probably won't work with someone immersed in the cult mentality. Patience and love, while sticking to your principles (so they don't entertain thoughts of "winning you back to the fold") is the best way. It won't take long before something will happen in their life where they will see the difference between your love and the conditional pseudo dub-love. That's what helped me escape their stranglehold. My "evil" apostate sister never pushed; she just always let me know that she was there no matter what. I'm so blessed to have a relationship with her now.

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A wedding UNinvitation... please help me before I flip

by Fleshybirdfodder in

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i just got of the phone with my younger brother and i am angered to the point of apoplexy.

he was planning on going to a wedding of an old close friend of his accompanied by my mom (an active witless still), but happened to check an email address he doesn't use frequently anymore.

surprise!

Fleshybirdfodder

Thanks so much. Just had to vent. I feel a lot better now. I know we aren't the first to go through this (I'm so sorry garybuss), it was just a very visceral reaction. Appreciate your thoughts so much... and I am very proud of my brother for taking the high road.

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A wedding UNinvitation... please help me before I flip

by Fleshybirdfodder in

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friends

i just got of the phone with my younger brother and i am angered to the point of apoplexy.

he was planning on going to a wedding of an old close friend of his accompanied by my mom (an active witless still), but happened to check an email address he doesn't use frequently anymore.

surprise!

Fleshybirdfodder

I just got of the phone with my younger brother and I am angered to the point of apoplexy. He was planning on going to a wedding of an old close friend of his accompanied by my mom (an active witless still), but happened to check an email address he doesn't use frequently anymore. Surprise! Surprise! He received a wedding UNinvitation. Seems his dear friend he had grown up with had heard "through the grapevine" that my brother was up to things that he didn't approve of, thus he felt it necessary to inform him that he was not welcome at the wedding after all. My brother replied saying "good to hear from you, hear your future wife is a wonderful girl, have a great wedding." I don't think I could have been that congenial. Yes indeed folks, my brother is up to some pretty terrible things. For instance: just graduating from college with honours whilst working full time to pay for living on his own, dating an absolutely fantastic (Catholic gasp!) girl who is in University. I guess I should mention all the banks my brother has robbed and all the people he has murdered.... Oh wait... he just stopped going to meetings because he doesn't agree with what is being taught. I don't know what I'll do if my mom still goes. I'm quite certain she will. What am I going to say to her?

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An Elder called me today

by xjwms in

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at first it was business..........then it got bad.

a long, long time ago, ... in a land far far away i was considered as "family" with this family.. thank gawd he lives about 100 miles away from me, ... and the calls are mostly business.. this time, .... it was ....well, when do you think you are going to return and start serving jehovah again.??.

shocked the hell outta me cause i did'nt hear these words for years.. when that conversation ended..........he was singing a "new song".......i let him have it.. this year (2006) marks five years since i was active and regular as a jw........no one has cared...... whats the difference now.. .