Excellent Gumby! I had never thought of that!
FBF
i'm sure this has been covered millions of times, but could someone give me a link?
i've heard some orthodox jews reject transfusions as well.. thanks,.
fbf
Excellent Gumby! I had never thought of that!
FBF
i've heard this illustration several times in varying formats.
to encapsulate: a man works at a railway bridge and is in charge of switching the tracks so that the train can successfully cross the river.
he sees his son playing on the bridge just as the train is coming.
I've heard this illustration several times in varying formats. To encapsulate: A man works at a railway bridge and is in charge of switching the tracks so that the train can successfully cross the river. He sees his son playing on the bridge just as the train is coming. He calls to his son but his son doesn't hear him (don't ask me why the kid doesn't hear the train). The man is faced with a choice, rescue his son or let his son die and and save all the people on the train by switching the tracks. The illustration ends with the man bringing his child's "broken lifeless body" home to his wife (I distinctly remember the wording in quotes) to explain what happened. As a child this REALLY bothered me. It was meant to illustrate what Jehovah did for mankind by offering up his son. Anyone else remember this one? Any other common illustrations that bothered you?
i'm sure this has been covered millions of times, but could someone give me a link?
i've heard some orthodox jews reject transfusions as well.. thanks,.
fbf
Thanks Blondie! You're the best!
i was raised from the womb until the age of 16 as a jw, i was never really a part of it.
i never got baptized, by the end i hated everything about it.
the worst part was not being able to voice any opinions i had on the religion, not unless i wanted them to fall on deaf ears and be considered immoral.
I knew he was more interested with how it made him look as a parent than my spiritual wellbeing
I can sooooo relate to that. My congregation was all about "keeping up with the joneses".
FBF
i'm sure this has been covered millions of times, but could someone give me a link?
i've heard some orthodox jews reject transfusions as well.. thanks,.
fbf
I'm sure this has been covered millions of times, but could someone give me a link? I've heard some Orthodox Jews reject transfusions as well.
Thanks,
FBF
i really feel at a disadvantage here because i don't really know this god.
with my limited brain power i can only understand what i can experience around me with my five senses.
that doesn't include the spiritual world as i have no biological/neurological receptors for this.
Well stated Spectrum,
I've been in a state of quandary about this for some time. Chasing down an infinite number of hallways to find an answer has led me to this: While I do believe in God, I believe he is unknowable from an empirical perspective. Things simply do not add up. Some people need to put a face to the unknowable simply to get out of bed each day and appreciate the sunshine. One who tries to limit something that is in essence infinite runs into too many paradoxes and ultimately insanity. The best way for me to look at it is understanding that I have a few years of consciousness afforded to me to work out things like morality, truth, spirituality, justice etc... and what comes after that is in the hands of the one who granted me this gift. I don't portend to create my own reality, and thus I don't portend to create God (ie. creating a bunch of parameters and definitions and labels). God just is.
FBF
in fact, over the past year there have been two such instances.
a few weeks ago i was at a depot i visit once a month and i noticed someone who had been disfellowshiped about 8 or 9 years ago.
i waited for him to finish his conversation and then approached him.
Wow. Very powerful. Things like that really draw a distinct line between real and conditional love.
FBF
after alot of time, lurking, fighting this damn inward battle i am dealing with, i've decided to join in the mix.
a little about me (i'll try not to bore you to much) ... i am a fader.
was raised jw, was even a m.s.
Hi inbetween!
Welcome to the board! Not much I can add. I have been fading for about 2 years now, and while it hasn't been easy, it certainly has been worth it! I was also raised a witness with blinders over my eyes, but once you start to heal (and this board is an awesome start!) you will see how big the world really is, how beautiful everything is, how exciting everything is, and how refreshing it is to live without the constant terror of judgemental eyes on you. Read some of the life stories of the board members, you have really come to a place where people can understand what you are going through. Tonnes of great research to go through and lots of laughs too! Look forward to hearing more from you!
FBF
i know this topic has been beat to death probably in here...but i was watching some of the "friends" going down my street the other day (and they categorically skip my house because satan and i are tight you know) and it reminded me so much of how much i hated going door to door and how i prayed when it was my turn to knock that nobody was home.
and we walked down those streets with our little territory cards in hand, making anywhere from meticulous to rediculous notes about the house we were just at...and moving our feet as slowly as we possibly could to maintain a forward motion at all, to eat up the time we were forced to (yes i said forced to) report every month.
field service was what you called the time you spent between when you were at mcdonalds and dunkin donuts.
We had two congregations sharing our hall and the territory disputes over who had to hand over what call when they moved to the other congregation were like the crips and the bloods.
FBF
it's been 8 years since i had to go to a meeting so i've forgotten alot of what i did myself, but add to the list what you did if you were a child made to sit still and in silence through the meetings and assemblies.. .
i went on amazing journeys with the power of my imagination!.
*recite entire music albums in my head.
My watch had a stopwatch on it, so I would see how long I could hold my breath and then try to beat that record. The trick was not inhaling too hard when I couldn't hold it any longer so as not to draw attention to myself.
FBF