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  I JUST GOT THIS EMAIL........

  by Mary in

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  from a former co-worker of mine that says the following:.

  "...[her daughter who is attending university of toronto] is working on a research paper for her religion course and she has chosen to do it on jehova (sp?

  ) witnesses.

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  Quandry

  Maybe she could call the Service Desk, tell them she is a student doing a research paper, and ask about the Watchtower joining the UN and about the stance of the WTS on pedophiles verses the recent court cases. She could ask if they feel they are the only group that has God's approval, then ask about the video of the spokesperson saying the opposite. Just to start.....
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  God does not want people with "talent"

  by hamsterbait in

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  2. bible

  anybody remember that stinking comment in a 1950s witchtower, .

  "it is difficult for the holy spirit to influence those with a colorful personality".

  i guess they really mean it is harder for the babble and trick society to control them.. hb.

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  Quandry

  Scene: A peaceful gathering of JWs-no "colorful personalities" present.
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  Russia - Still King of the North

  by proplog2 in

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  when the berlin wall came down, even before the offical dissolution of the soviet union, the watchtower was quick to back away from the idea that russia was the king of the north.

  nothing really changed.

  true, there is an appearance of friendship and cooperation between russia and the us but russia is the one country that can totally destroy the usa.

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  Quandry

  Undercover-

  Your "song" was hilarious!! I think you done 'ole Charlie right proud!!!
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  Stop college or keep plugging on?...opinions please.

  by FreedomFrog in

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  here's my situation...i'm doing college online because i can't very well do college the traditional way with a 2 year old.

  anyway, my computer has been acting really funny and it's not reliable anymore.

  my ex worked on it for almost 4 hours and the darn thing still crashes saying my "virtual" memory is too low.

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  Can you go part time? Have more time now for work, and child, and less computer woes. Or, are you positive you will go when the baby goes to school? Hard decision. I'd say at least take one class per semester for now. You will not feel so far behind when you can go full time later. Just don't give up. You must get the education, for yourself, and your example to your child.
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  Hi to Everyone

  by DawnLS620 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my name is dawn and i'm a ex-jw, who has been out since l976.

  i live in michigan, was born and raised here but also spent about 3 years in austin, texas (1 of them as a witness - the other two running amouk having fun).

  i just spent the last 2 1/2 hours on the phone with my dear old buddy, dave, (seven006) whom i've heard some of you know.

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  Quandry

  Welcome. I've never been on any other boards. Found this one, and liked it, and decided to stay. I have read some people's comments that this is the best board they've ever seen. Hope it is great for you.
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  WHAT would YOU do? Teen issues.....

  by onlycurious in

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  2. friends

  my oldest daughter is a handful.

  she has a mouth that just doesn't seem to stop and today we got into it .....again.. well, after a bunch of crap coming out of her mouth, i smacked her on the arm and told her to quit the talking to me that way.. then, it got worse when she kicked me.

  geez, how would you have dealt with this kind of thing.. i told her i'm going to send her to a camp this summer where they put her on a giant kite (parasailing) and make her fly off a cliff.

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  Quandry

  I lived through the teen issues. My child also was a dream at school but sometimes took things out on me.

  When calmer moments prevail, I would have a discussion with daughter. She needs to first be told that you love her dearly, that you are proud of her, that she is everything you want in a child.

  Tell her that now that she is older, she is to be given more leeway in choosing things, like her clothes, shoes, etc.

  But:

  Then I would explain that with age comes more responsibility. She is no longer a baby, and there are more grown up things expected of her.

  They just need to know the rules beforehand. First I would appogize because evidently you have not made the rules plain and you need to make them clear. Explain in a nice tone that respect is due parents, and neither disrespectful speech nor hitting will not be tolerated. Consequences will come if this happens again. When you are through with the rules, ask if she understands.

  When a situation arises again, remind her of the rule and that she said she understood. You could give a choice at this point. Do you want to continue with the way you are talking and get a consequence or would you rather stop this action? The first time or two will be a test of your resolve.

  If she does not cool down and stop acting or speaking disrespectfully, then administer the consequences.You might explain what will be taken away, such as phone or T.V. priveledges, or friends over. DO NOT BACK DOWN, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. They have made the choice, and will have to live with it. This will asure less of these episodes in the future.

  ]I work in a school where we have loads of training in effective discipline. Patience and sticking to your resolve will work.
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  ADVICE PLEASE. No lit for ex-JW - I have to put an ultimatum to my wife.

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  if it is true that it has been announced that ex-jw`s are not to get the study watchtowers, then i must put an ultimatum to my wife.

  i look through the wt's at the moment to gauge any radical teachings that i may need to counter with my 2 kids.

  if my wife rewfuses to give me the 'secret' wt's then im afraid that it is the end of her taking them to the meetings.

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  You need to keep a sense of humor and a lighthearted approach to countering the hate literature they may be forced to read or listen to being read. They will not remember details and facts as much as how they feel when they are around you.

  This is the best advice. Anything else will throw your family into battle mode. The children will be the ones caught in the crossfire.

  As long as you are a good dad, and encourage them to get an education, help them with homework, read to them, and play sports/and encourage them to play or be involved with other activities to build self esteem, and spend time with them on the weekends, you will not be having problems. They will love you and want to be with you. So will your wife, for that matter, if you are good to her, and she will defend anyone who tries to tear her family apart.
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  Humourous DA letter

  by besty in

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  2. friends

  right- we've been thinking about this.. .

  it seems that most da letters are: doctrinal, personal, emotional or or major issues such un etc .

  and completely understandably so..but.. .

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  Quandry

  My mother in law has sadly informed me that she would not associate with me any longer unless I come back to Jehovah. I can't pass up this opportunity, so I'm formally handing in my disassociation. So long, Martha. That is soooo funny. Who couldn't appreciate this kind of humor? Even stuffy elders would have to laugh at this!!!
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  How to open a JWs mind

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i posted a similar article a year ago, but have cut it down by half, so thought it worth posting again for those that are looking for a place to start discussing the fallacy of watchtower doctrine with family.

  there is no guaranteed way to open a jw mind.

  however, it is generally more effective to avoid discussing doctrine and rather concentrate on the concept that jesus chose the watchtower society as his sole organization in 1919. i hope this may help some of you.

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  Quandry

  Thank you for listing the information of the beliefs of the WTS in 1919 in such a way. I never realized all of it before. It really does show that they were just appointing themselves to a position of being the only ones that God approved.
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  NEW policy! NO LIT for EX-JWs!

  by MinisterAmos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's official; they read the letter tonight that puts forth the new procedure.

  if you find an expelled person in the field or are studying with one, you are no longer permitted to give them lit.

  presumably the elders make a decision if an expelled one is regularly attending meetings, but only they can give them lit.

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  Quandry

  You are right Undercover!

  Nowadays the WTS tries to find ways to control who gets their publications.

  It is all about control. Make people nervous and scared to miss meetings. They were always going on about how those in countries where the work was banned had to be at one meeting to know where the next would be. These are tactics to keep people on that exaustive high alert status, always afraid the big A is coming in the next hour.

  Sometimes I used to think about the many times they'd say It's the time of the harvest and no farmer did anything else during this time of work. Then I'd think, yeah, but didn't the poor guy ever get to rest? One cannot stay in a crisis mode indefinetely. It gets nervewracking.

  I was on this alert status for more than 30 years. yes, I would have to say I was under their control. They are masters of it.