Welcome to the forum.
Please do research now before committing to baptism. Look into the history of JWs. Then you will be able to make an informed choice.
"Better to have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned."
i'm new to this board and looking to see what it's all about.
i'm currently an unbaptized publisher and third-generation jw, so for obvious reasons i can't give my real name due to personal concerns.
so from now on people can refer to me as "jimmy".
Welcome to the forum.
Please do research now before committing to baptism. Look into the history of JWs. Then you will be able to make an informed choice.
"Better to have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned."
ok so if you look at my membership and post history im very much a new member here, but have been researching things for some months on and off, so i have not made any sudden decisions..... i have been reading heaps of reasoning here as to why many of you have left jws, particularly those of you who have left for reasons of conscience.
i have just read crisis of conscience, which has become the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me.. for many reasons i am no longer one of jehovahs witnesses in my heart, but i still identify myself as a christian, and will continue to uphold bible principles in my life.
the two big realisations for me is that: one: i do not have to compromise my bible trained conscience to make this differentiation, and it does not make me a true apostate, although loyal jws would label me that.
Just wanted to add my welcome to the forum, Notreadytorun. (Although it sounds like you are lacing up your running shoes)
gosh i wish i was better at having religious discussions with jws.
this evening, as i am at home trying to relax, i get a phone call from the local jws who are evidently sitting in their kh dialing out.. i got this man who starts off by asking me if he can ask me a question.
"okaaaaay..." i say slowly.... "do you think..." he starts... and then stops... obviously losing his place in his pre-prepared sermon....
Ha! I think you did very well.....you probably made the man very sorry he was taking part in phone witnessing, and I'll bet he doesn't do it again!
The woman, well-perhaps she'd never heard Charles Russell and pyramid in the same sentence. Just maybe she'll look that up.
At the least, you probably made them sweat a bit....they thought they'd call some person who knew nothing about the JWs and just tell them that there will be a paradise sooooon, blah blah.
Just too bad you couldn't see the looks on their faces. They got more than they bargained for. Ha ha ha ha again
i've been lurking here since late last year...was very hesitant to join the forum because of fear that satan would control my pc.... .
i'm born in, but always had my little doubts about "the truth" since i was young, but went ahead and got baptized ect.... .
i stumbled upon this site while looking for a km and initially thought it was a jw forum, but after seeing some of the titles of various threads, i thought to myself "i'm on an apostate website".
Welcome.
I remember when I first decided to post. My hands shook!
I was "in" for over thirty years. Several years have passed since I have been "out" and I am happy to say that my mind is under my own control now. Glad you are now able to say the same.
so thats what my mum told me today.
i've learned to hold my tongue but i was thinking,.
"why can't it?
It has to be sooooooooon, because in 1973, when I was baptised, we only had two more years until 1975-oh, wait-nothing happened in 1975, did it? Well, no one knows how long Adam was alone before Eve was created.
But, really, it is so close now, it's just around the corner, it's as close as the inside of my eyeball, it's.......
good day to everyone.
after reading and benefiting from the numerous experiences posted here, i thought it would be proper for me to share my story too.
i was born and brought up as an anglican church member.
So glad to hear that she is back.
Please get her mind off of depressing things...take her shopping for the baby and talk about pleasant things-even the weather if need be. Talk about your families and grandparents-things she did as a child that must be like your beautiful daughter-in other words, get the pressure off for awhile. She needs to feel secure as she is about to have a baby and shouldn't be upset.
this year will be my parents 50th wedding anniversary.
my mum is a jw my father is not.
my husband and i hade been df'd and i have 3 sisters.
Maybe you could try to contact your sister beforehand and test the water...ask if for your parent's sake, could everyone just get together as family without reference to anything else (meaning you congo status).
State that you do not want anyone to make mom or dad feel uncomfortable, and this, after all, is necessary family business. If she is willing, make plans from there.
Perhaps it would be better to just keep it at family, since sis would have to go against her principles if any other JWs came. Maybe make a CD of family pictures to play in the background,including some from their wedding, or a scrapbook of remembrances.
I would remind sis that the day is not about you or her...not a time for anyone to get on a pedestal or a "high horse."
Hope it is a lovely day for your parents.
This must be the view from the main road....not very inviting....looks desolate.
apologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.
two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.
he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.
Read the experience right above this one from wezz. He became a JW to marry his love. He has a baby and is expecting another. It all unraveled because he finally did the research about JWs and no longer wants to be one. She left him in a matter of hours after he told her he no longer believes.
This will be your nightmare if you convert first and then do research later. Take the time now to read about JWs, their history, and the effect of being one. This forum will provide much information for you.
I am sure you are feeling pain now. Imagine it if you have children and then he won't speak to you.
good day to everyone.
after reading and benefiting from the numerous experiences posted here, i thought it would be proper for me to share my story too.
i was born and brought up as an anglican church member.
Welcome, wezz.
So sorry that you are now in this difficult situation.
Yes, she originally came to you when you were not a JW. This was disobedience on her part. She looked outside the organization, despite all the clear stated mandates from the "faithful and discreet slave." She was considered "touching something unclean," etc. Her actions spoke for her in saying that she was willing to go against the holy spirit directed words of the WTS and words from the Bible itself in "not mixing in company" with an unbeliever. She was Dinah "going out into the land." How does she now "get on a high horse" because you are say words contrary to the WTS? Hypocritical, isn't it?
It would be interesting if you asked her all these questions. I'd sure like to know what her response is.
Also, let her know that you'll not be a "spiritual danger" to her; she can go to the KHall if she chooses. That way she has no WT grounds for divorce. Also, please speak kindly and patiently-in response to her-don't go in defensively- as you visit her and your child. Also, don't go empty-handed. Go with money and gifts for her, your daughter, and your unborn son.
Hoping the best for you.