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  CONTEST! See who can answer this really hard dub/bible Question.

  by gumby in

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  aint i a clever bastard?

  i worded that there thread title so's i get you to read this and help my poor forgetful, used to remember, brain out and show me some documentation using jw's vs. christendom teachings on this question.

  here's the question.. how do you prove to a jehovah's witness that the "great crowd" spoken of in the book of revelations is a group who's eternal hope is a "heavenly one" rather than a "seperate" group of jesus followers with a seperate eternal residential destiny?.

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  Atlantis WOW

  The modern day "great crowd" is Rutherford's finest invention that saved the WTS from certain doom. He called them the "great multitude" in 1935. In the early days, persons that were saved by grace other than being annointed were refered to as the "millions now living will never die". As early as 1918 the "millions now living" refered to the masses of ungodly persons who were considered saved by good works alone. To be saved in 1918 a person did not have to be part of a religious organization. According to currrent WTS doctrine, the great crowd ARE these "millions now living" and the great crowd is exclusively made up of JWs.

  This means the ungodly masses can no longer be saved by grace.

  So the doctrinal flaw is that the Jws are the only class that can be saved by grace and folks we all know that ain't true
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  False Prophets- Did the WT ever claim to be a Prophet?? Scans say YES!!

  by Lady Liberty in

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  doing more digging and thought i would post this for any new ones.

  first of all i would like to show you what the bible says about "flase prophets": deuteronomy 18:20. .

  20 "however, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that i have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die.

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  Rutty blutty prophets

  Not only are the GB prophets but every JW is a prophet as well ! Thanks for the scans. I sure enjoy reading the correct words of truth.
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  The "generation" teaching - just to clarify!

  by Beardo in

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  sorry to be a major pain in the ass - but could those " in the know " clear something up for me?.

  is the " generation " teaching that was redefined during 1995 still taught to " interested ones " or have the wtbts totally removed this generation idea from their new literature, which is used to indoctrinate a person leading up to baptism?.

  any enlightenment welcome.

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  hey blondie thanks for the awake changes on the generation doctrine. This should make the JWs awake
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  Another JW sees the light

  by headmath in

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  take that gb.

  http://www.freeminds.org/stories/ssalg.htm.

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  Take that GB

  http://www.freeminds.org/stories/ssalg.htm
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  The Millenium is nearby, isn't it?

  by Yussidiver in

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  i think that jehovah will bring salvation next month to all of us.

  we, ex-jws with our lifes totally destroyed by the sect-tanic machine of lies of the cheattower, will inherit the paradise.

  no entrance allowed to gay, lesbians and that kind of satanic tribes.

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  I think that the WTS latest hype is just to get new members because they are going broke
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  Jesus Manuel Cano a bethel elder

  by headmath in

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  cano was not an ordinary elder, he was a bethel elder.

  i found out what a bethel elder does from this site:.

  http://www.xjw.com/cabeen.html.

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  Cano was not an ordinary elder, he was a bethel elder. I found out what a bethel elder does from this site:

  http://www.xjw.com/cabeen.html

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  The following year I was appointed a "Bethel Elder." As such, I spoke as a Watchtower Society representative at Society-sponsored conventions, (I was the featured speaker at a District Assembly in Roanoke, VA, in my mid-twenties). On a few occasions, I was the featured speaker at special meetings attended by thousands, for example, in San Antonio, Texas, and Chicoutimi, Quebec, Canada.

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  So a bethel elder is very highly trusted by the WTS. It seems the hoky spirit allowed Cano to lead a double life. Cano's favourite talk was on master.bation

  BTW the story about Tom Cabeen is a good read
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  2007 YEAR TEXT: (Zephaniah 1:14) 14 “The great day of Jehovah is near.

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  message: .

  i was just told that the 2007 years text is (zephaniah 1:14) 14 the great day of jehovah is near.

  it is near, and there is a hurrying [of it] very much.

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  That's TED. MGM used him in the Wizard of OZ . Look closely, there's TOTO the dog who typifies the modern day cult buster. Through the type of TOTO we can see clearly see the antitype
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  three wise men

  by Ade in

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  a while back i posted on a story found in the watchtowers childrens bible concerning the three wise men going to visit jesus, in the childrens bible the word is rendered "worship" him, as most are aware in the nwt the words are rendered "do obeisance".this post doesnt directly cover that, i wanted to find out whether these so called wise men were sent by god or not.

  the reason for this is that someone pointed out that this was because the three wise men were (by jw's accounts) sent by satan.i decided to search through the scriptures to decide for myself whether there was an adequate reason for them to make such a statement.

  if this has been covered before many apologies.

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  Men wrote the bible and the stuff they wrote was folklore that is stories handed down from one generation to the next. It is no wonder that the bible remains such a mystical text
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  Roll call - scholar? thirdwitness?

  by Jeffro in

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  scholar and thirdwitness seem to have disappeared.. scholar hasn't said a word since being unable to provide a single reference from the society's literature, despite his claims that such references exist, to indicate anything other than speculation that places the return of the jews in 537bc.. thirdwitness hasn't been able to provide any valid rebuttal - hasn't even tried - to the analysis i have made of his (he claims to be the author) 607 website..

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  My goodness. Some of their posts would make your head spin. Affter all, it is splitting hairs trying to prove 606 or 607 or 538 or what have you. The main thing is THE WTS IS A FALSE PROPHET
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  No Field Service No Paradise

  by moomanchu in

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  my mom doesn't go out in field service or go to the book study or give talks or answer (never did 40 to 50 years now).

  she is however a loyal defender of the watchtower and she regularly goes to sun.

  and thur.

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  The 1943 watchtower states that Jesus himself commanded the JW to go in field service and put in 140 hours a month. I think Leolaia had a scan of that arcticle