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--- A Question for ALL Atheistic ex-Dubs----
by gordon d inwhich child is wiser?
while starting a hunt for easter eggs one child runs to a big tree and finds nothing then that childs brother says, go look under that rock i promise youll find one there!
the child throws down their basket and says, i give up!
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What does one do at a concert?
by Dune inmaybe i was just an uber-witness loser (i took the religion very seriously when i was in it).. a friend is trying to get me to go triple dating with some of her friends and this chick i'm diggin.
the setting is this dashboard confessional's concert.. but i've never been to a concert, so i was wondering what the hell are you supposed to do?
just stand around and jump up and down?.
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Enjoy it.
Try and not get behind a person who's taller than you.
See portions of it on youtube 4 years down the road!
I always dance, but that's just me, you don't have to DO anything, you're there to be entertained :) -
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Maybe There's a Heaven...
by LittleToe ini don't often open up discussions on my beliefs or experiences in life, but i feel a need, so please excuse me if you feel it untoward.
neither is this a poxy swan-song, i'm just opening up my heart a little.. today i had cause to reflect on a conversation i had with my [now ex-]wife shortly after my epithany.
everything was so new and unknown.
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Proplog, you do sound insane last post, tis true.
Little Toe: Yes, THAT is one of the things that I would found so disturbing w/ JW description of paradise earth. It seemed like, they were all down on earth, still fending for themselves, going about day to day chores. And where was He? Still sort of "up in the clouds" not PRESENT with them. So, I thought, why bother? What's the point of this "reward" when you are not "reunited" with the Object of your devotion.
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SEATTLE / TACOMA advice needed please
by new light inmy wife and i are moving to the area, preferably between seattle and tacoma, and would like to narrow our apartment search to the nicer neighborhoods.
we both are total newbies to washington and are hoping for some voices of experience to help us avoid the old "trial and error" method.
also, i'll be working in the construction trade and my job is much improved when working in the high-end homes, so if anyone knows where the wealthier people live, that would narrow down some areas for my job search.
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The only area "between Seattle and Tacoma" that I have personally been too is Federal Way, it is a nice area. I like Bellevue alot, it is very close and accessible to Seattle. I wouldn't want to live IN the city, like on Capitol Hill for instance. Though, there are great Restaurants on Capitol Hill, like Broadway Grill, can I hear it from the Seattle people? Pagliaccis pizza?
There's people who live in Seattle who could probably be more helpful, I've only been a visitor. My brother lived there for a number of years til just recently, he lived in the U-District (University (of WA) district). I really liked that location, near a really nice shopping center. Also, I have relatives who live in Bellevue.
I believe the figure of millionaires in Bellevue alone is something like 68,000. At least from what I heard :)
good luck, I hope you don't mind the more rainy weather being from Arizona :) -
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The One Thing You Could Never Give Up.
by lowden inwell.........here i am, a few pints of guinness further on and it got me thinking.. i luuurve guinness with a passion but what could i never give up in a month of sundays?.
hmmmmmm...well it's definitely not alcohol....i don't think .
for me, it's my music, my george lowden guitar (damn i've blown my cover) and all the amazing vibes that playing, singing and songwriting gives me.. what could you not give up...........in a month of sundays.. peace.
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THE INTERNET!
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"My Grief over Wasting 10 Years of My Life"
by scout575 in"ex-christians are angry because they are grieving... i voluntarily spent 10 years of my life pursuing a godly life.
my fantasy was that i was spending my time well and becoming a better person by following god.
my grief over wasting 10 years of my life, is grief over giving up the fantasy.".
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Triton_Logic,
what a silly post, I hope your taking the piss because otherwise you've just made a very assanine statement. People suffering, dying, or otherwise hurting as a result of time spent in a high control cult is not spilt milk.
Did you register here to post a stupid comment like that? Are you a practicing witness or something, I bet you are, it comes through in your lack of empathy. -
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Weird experience
by Dawn inthis weekend i was having a discussion with my husband about "listening to that inner voice" - you know, the one that says you should take that risk because you could be a real success, but you talk yourself out of it.
or it tells you not to trust that office mate, but you convince yourself you're being silly, only to get back-stabbed later on.
that "inner voice" that somehow can notice those subtle, unconscious messages that we miss in our conscious state.. i told my husband that i was going to work on listening to that voice - and stop talking myself out of things when i just know it is something i should do - mostly with career decisions and relationships in mind.. after this discussion i head to the grocery store to get some goodies for the football game.
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Cool experience Dawn!
25$ is nothing to turn you nose up to IMO, but I was sure that after the prognostications of the fortune cookie you would be telling us you were a millionaire! Still, 25$ is enough to buy roughly 4 dozen Krispy Kremes, so congratulations you big winner!
I always get the most vague depressing messages from my fortune cookies, like "The path leads to where it takes you," "You will decide on one thing not the other" or something. Really giving me nothing to look forward too, certainly don't feel "fortunate" after reading them. I like the taste though, like waffle cones.
Actually....my Mom is a lotto winner, not 25$ and not millions, though. -
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How many are like me?
by JH ini still believe in god.
still believe his name is jehovah or something like it.. still believe that jesus is his son, and he isn't god almighty.. don't believe in the trinity.
i believe in the resurrection.
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Hi JH
Well, I never've been a Witness, but in response to this:::
but on the other hand, I don't want to be a JW because of their man made laws, that has nothing to do with what Jesus said, and their lack of love, and the way they control and treat their own followers.
***I'm just wondering why I still believe in so much of what the JW's teach***, except for their false dates, and still I don't want to be one of them because their lack of love and justice ruins the good news of the Kingdom.
smellsgood: I think that probably part of it is that they do such a thorough job in not only dogmatising their own doctrines, but are emphatic and thorough in "disproving" on a continuous basis those beliefs that they have labeled as "un-Christian" "pagan" and the like. I believe the very fact that they are so dishonest in their methods of doing so should make one pause, because if it were so "sure" than certainly they wouldn't be so consistently so dishonestly to prove it.
I think it gets in your head, particularly if you are raised with it. Perhaps the thought stopping with regards to those things still plays a roll, even once someone has come to realise the WT is a cult.
Personally, it strikes me in thinking about it, that if you are to still believe in the Biblical figures, and believe that Jehovah is in reality today God, and has not abandoned his creation etc, and is still interested in the matters of men; how could the WT be wrong about his purpose, timing, about his will (blood transfusion) be completely wrong about what He will DO and then on the flipside, be right about HIM? How could an organization which misdirects, falsifies, lies outright, is in all ways devious and deluded be the bearers of the "correct" view of the Biblical God, when they are wrong about pretty much everything else? Why would a "living" God "reveal" himself and not his ways to an organization that has claimed to be His Mouthpiece?
It's just what I think about. Also, the living forever on earth I don't see why its relevant or such a big hammer point. Certainly I think the 144K and "anointed" is one of the silliest and convoluted beliefs I have ever come across if you want to see it from a Biblical or any other perspective really.
I think they are wrong on every single point if you are looking it from a Biblical, irreligious, other religious, humanistic, disinterested or any point of view. If Jehovah has the attributes that are described in the Bible, or generally understood, I can't see how He would operate in a way to mislead so thoroughly a group of people, but then to confuse things further, to have them have the "correct" view on his "person" :)
I read a JW's ramblings about the future on Paradise Earth, and it literally disturbed me like say a horror movie would. It sounds so unlike any conception of "afterlife" from any religious volume I have ever seen. To me, it sounded so manmade, like the concepts of the 72 virgins are so obviously manmade. It was written in a way to make it sound appealing, something to look forward too, but it just sounded like the world of today, with I guess less sex and less hunger?
Anyways, I do believe in the immortality of the soul. This is something I think everyone has a sense of, currently and historically, unless it is intellectually "repressed" as it were. You may disagree and that's fine. I change my mind about things all the time, its nice just to be able to explore the possibilities. But from my perspective, one thing that is not possible is the WT being right about anything whatsoever. I just can't see how such a repellant organization could point to a "true" God...
I can understand why you would retain those beliefs, and if you still believe in the bible, and the figures in it, and from perhaps your own study without the WT blinders on you have reached those beliefs, that's alright. -
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Reckless,
That is so sad about your son, and your Wife. There is nothing more grievous than losing a loved one. Particularly given the fact your son was taken by the disease that affected you so much when you were a child and you never wanted to see happen in your family.
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"Thats what you get for leaving Jehovah"
by megsmomma inthat is what my mom told me when i got bit by a brown recluse spider.. i was in ohio, visiting my daughter and my mom was there trying to convert me back.
she even said if i go back, we would get custody of my daughter..... well....i drove myself there from ks and somehow had gotten bitten right before i left.
it was right between my eyes, and my head started swelling up on the way there.
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Are you ok today though? I mean, thats nasty. The girl on Extreme Makeover the other night was disfigured from it...Brown recluses have some wicked venom.
What about the people who haven't "left Jehovah" *the 'Tower* and fall ill, have accidents, etc? What about the children who die BECAUSE "of Jehovahs will" aka the blood policy? Jehovah disproves of children riding bikes, and fatally punishes them?
how silly. Could even bust out examples from the Bible, ask your Mom to read about your friend Job.
Well, if something bad happens in her life, you can maybe have that attitude of what have you been doing wrong that Jehovah found out about? Or next time anyone in the congregation falls ill shake your head in the knowledge that they must have been slacking in the FS.