Only brainwashed cultmembers think what the GB says is intelligent.
They real world can spot the bs immediately.
Their responses would be a laughing stock to normal people.
youtube has the wonderful functionality of video responses.
i have seen jw members provide some responses and even then not very many.
why hasn't the watchtower utilized this functionality and offer offical responses to their accusers?.
Only brainwashed cultmembers think what the GB says is intelligent.
They real world can spot the bs immediately.
Their responses would be a laughing stock to normal people.
at one point in my life i chose to stop listening to my religion's advice to not research outside of their framework.
about the time i made that decision was when the gay marriage debate was going very strong; and still is to this day.
back then i felt like my state of california was leading the front on it to stop the bigotry and oppression once and for all.. it was a hot topic for me because i was questioning the bible and my faith so i started researching the science of homosexulality.
Some people are born hermaphrodites.
What does god intend for them?
According to the bible, it would be a sin for them to marry and have sex with anyone, male or female.
Doctors can assign a sex to the infant, but later in life some of these people discover they were assigned the wrong sex. Would it be sinful to switch back to the other gender? Would that make them a homo?
I think being a homosexual is as sinful as being a hermaphrodite, in other words, not at all.
please bear with me... i am deep into reading 'crisis of conscience' but i came across the name 'greelees' and i was wondering if someone could tell me a quick version of the official story on both chitty and greenlees.
i was trying to research it here but i don't have hours to spend wading through the threads... .
someone?
Too cool Onthewayout.
Im using that one.
i'm an atheist, and i'd like to take some time to talk about why i hold a great deal of respect for the jehovah's witnesses, and some words of encouragement that may put an end to the ridicule and disrespect you seem to get from, well, all sorts of people.. .
i never gave this kind of criticism a second thought: i knew nothing about you, and i figured you were just another fringe group of christianity.
i now feel terrible about this, and i wish to apologize for my (admittedly never spoken) disrespect.
By their fruits you will know them.
It doesn't matter what they claim, or put in print,
what matters is what they do, and what the end result is.
Oh and BTW, if your an atheist, Im Charlse Taze Russell, and my cat is Teddy Jackass
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^ i know many women who are all over that.. -sab.
For the most part no, I do not like facial hair on men.
But my man stops shaving a month before elk season and usually keeps it most of the winter.
And I just love it!
the comments were made by a militant jw pioneer/elder/ms training school, kind of ass hole.. at the time i was on the ministry with him.
as we walked by a swathe of students heading into university for the day he turned to me & said "look at them all!
each one on the road of futility".
Somewhere in there heart of hearts JWs know that being educated is a good thing.
Otherwise they would not act the way they do around educated people.
The JWs I knew that were educated previous to becoming witnesses, where always treated with the highest regard.
you may know i was recently dfd...i am a 4th gen...my two sons of course were 5th gen. the oldest a rebel from birth so of course dfd at 17 and he is now 24. my younger son now 22 has been the golden boy for the dubs.
pioneered out of hs for 4 years...was a miniserve all that time...and then the holy grail...a year at bethel...i mean the perfect dub!.
well shocker of shocks...he was dfd three weeks ago!!!
Hopefully this will wake up your son, Though i imagine he must be going through hell right now.
I had a friend who on one occasion had sex with a MS.
She immediately went to the elders and confessed all, they DFed her, repentence was not enough, they were concerned that she may have gotten pregnant, and if she had, then it would prove that the elders had taken care of the matter.
The MS denied having sex with her, and because there was not two witnesses to the event, the MS got off scot free. (sorry, unintentianal bad pun)
Thats love in action folks
who holds the world record for the most disfellowshipings [ an reinstatments] in a single life time?.
i knew of one poor person charleen moss (roy baty's sister) who did it seven times.
she was a classic damed if i do, damed if i don't.
I know of two people that were DFed 4 times each.
The first one had an ongoing drug problem.
The second one had Monica Lowinski syndrome, she felt the need to give BJs so people would like her. It only worked on half the population.
i currently have an elder body who, for the most part, seems utterly complacent and disinterested in actually "shepherding" anything.
i can't tell if they are lazy or just oblivious to their responsiblities of being "teachers".
it seems like they are the last to know anything and always procrastinate on everything.
Technically, yes, I think that most elders do care.
Unfortunatley they are not even remotely qualified to shepard and they are completely and utterly clueless how to help people.
Like the above posters says, all they have in their toolbox to help you with is "DO MORE"
Husband beating the crap out of you? solution, do more!
so miserable you want to kill yourself? solution, do more!
To sick to get out of bed and go to meetings? solution, do more!
Youve done your homework and found out that Jeruselum did not fall in 607? solution, do more!
got sexually asaulted by a baptised member in good standing in the congregation? solution, do more! Oh yeah, we also must ask you very explicit questions and decide if it was rape or fornication, but in the mean time, do more!
i remember my parents went through a phase in the 80's of rehearsing what i would say in court if they were trying to get me to have a blood transfusion.
i remember the key comment they wanted me to say was that it would be like being raped, and then i had to be able to descripe what rape was.... i was about 7 at the time...(!).
i also remember having to rehearse a nazi style interrigation senario, as they thought i might need this at armargeddon when the nations "will turn on us!
I would love to watch the HBO series "Dexter" it is just my kind of weird humor/psychological study type of thing.
But every episode I try to watch just goes to far and trigers one of the scenarios in my head about being tortured or my children being tortured. I relate way to closely with the victims.
I know a lot of JWs never did this to their kids. But I think there was a large percentage of the pre-1975 parents that did.
Armegeddon was imminent, men women, children and infants would be tortured and we needed to be prepared. What happened to the Malawians would happen to us too. The society warned us of that regularly.