Welcome to the forum, it was the 607 that made me finally see the light too.
Paul
digderidoo
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First post after lurking on the sidelines
by onefootout ini've been lurking on the sidelines for a while and have decided to jump in and introduce myself.
the name kinda gives it away.
i'm a lifer who got a shocker about a year ago by stumbling across the 607 baloney.
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RAY FRANZ TODAY
by Scott77 inits has been almost two decades if i am correct since ray franz released the heartbreaking books: "crisis of conscience" and "in search of christian freedom".
since then, many of us have been released from bondage of the wts and set free.
by the way, where is ray franz today, what is he doing?
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Is Ray Franz's email the one on the home page of that site?
Paul
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staying awake for over 24 hours...only once for me...you?
by oompa inthings become very surreal.............not many details for me....but i did cross center lane.....and nearly died in a head on..........you?.
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digderidoo
I've only ever done it in my partying days.
Paul
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Jerusalem destroyed 607 or 586/7?
by isaacaustin inlet's try this again...most of us are aware that all available evidence points to the time of jerusalem's destruction at the 586/7bc time frame.
overwhelming evidence includes astronomical phenomena, achaeological evidence, bank records, the bible itself.. some hold to 607bc, for obvious reasons- the implications it has.
thoughts on how this would effect the average witness if forced to conclude 607 is wrong?
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digderidoo
Davegod.....The 1914 date has been changed many times. What came of that? 607 is moot, IMO some of you here spend way too much time trying to quantify it. Without and end game, what differance does it make? The generation that will not pass away has been dropped. So what differance does it make when or if Jesus took over? If a day in his court yard is as a 1000 years elswhere? The end may not come for centuries. The end has always been near, just not in our or anyone elses lifetime.
Dave, for me finally realising 607 is wrong was massive. Finally i could see the Watchtower Society that i had put so much faith in for my whole life was wrong. If they were wrong on this then surely they can be wrong on other issues too.
The very fact that i can prove the Watchtower wrong has been one of the biggest releases of my life. I could always criticise the UN stance, the child abuse scandals, the disfellowshipping stance, but in my opinion the WTS always comes back with an excuse or half hearted answer to these issues. But when i realised they have no comeback or excuse whatsoever on the 607 issue the penny finally dropped for me and in turn i realised their excuses for all the other issues was nothing more than BS.
Whilst the 607 issue may not be the biggest issue for you, it is the biggest issue for many of us here, for others it may be the UN or disfellowshipping, we all have that one straw that finally broke the camels back.
For me that straw is 607 v 587/6.
Paul
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Question for Christians or other religious people who believe in evolution
by Amha·aret inbefore i begin, i want to say that i really don't want to start yet another creation vs evolution debate so please don't go down that road with this thread.
that debate has been done many times aleady!.
i know there are many christians and other religious people on here who believe in god or gods and yet do accept evolution as the way we all came about.
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digderidoo
Good question amhaaret.
Paul
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Drinking issues, alcoholism and ex JW's
by digderidoo ini got talking to my mother yesterday about my alcoholism issues and slightly touched upon how my jw past has had a bearing on it.. she was telling me about a lady who cuts my nan's hair who turns out is an ex jw and we know her family.
apparently this lady drinks heavily and every day, at the same time is angry about her jw past and the way she's treated by family even though sh'es not df'ed.. we had a small chat about my alcoholism and that i could relate to this lady.. anyway it got me realising that there are a number here who have similar issues, so i would like to post this link.. http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/.
it's a forum that covers addiction in general, it has helped me loads.
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What's LLB mean, dig?
I't latin for Bachelor of Laws blondie. I got the following from wiki,
The "LL." of the abbreviation for the degree is from the genitive plural legum (of lex, legis f., law), thus "LL.B." stands for Legum Baccalaureus in Latin
It's basically the qualifying degree that all barristers and solicitors in England and Wales must take before they get their vocational training.
I haven't really got practicing law as a goal, but would like to get into teaching or research. It opens up doors for many things, the degree i'm doing is the oldest LLB in the country with London Uni, i've even got an option of studying at Cambridge for a week each year, which is unbelievable considering i was a homeless drunk 6 years ago.
Paul
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Drinking issues, alcoholism and ex JW's
by digderidoo ini got talking to my mother yesterday about my alcoholism issues and slightly touched upon how my jw past has had a bearing on it.. she was telling me about a lady who cuts my nan's hair who turns out is an ex jw and we know her family.
apparently this lady drinks heavily and every day, at the same time is angry about her jw past and the way she's treated by family even though sh'es not df'ed.. we had a small chat about my alcoholism and that i could relate to this lady.. anyway it got me realising that there are a number here who have similar issues, so i would like to post this link.. http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/.
it's a forum that covers addiction in general, it has helped me loads.
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BTTT
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Jerusalem destroyed 607 or 586/7?
by isaacaustin inlet's try this again...most of us are aware that all available evidence points to the time of jerusalem's destruction at the 586/7bc time frame.
overwhelming evidence includes astronomical phenomena, achaeological evidence, bank records, the bible itself.. some hold to 607bc, for obvious reasons- the implications it has.
thoughts on how this would effect the average witness if forced to conclude 607 is wrong?
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It wouldn't make any difference to them whatsoever, in fact i'd argue that it could be of benefit to them to accept 586/7
I have heard a witness say even if Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 that would mean Satan was cast down in 1934 and history shows that the last days prophecy has had a major fulfillment since 1934.
Think about it, what hapened in 1934? ... Hitler came to power
If the WTBTS took 1934 as the new date they could even bring back in the 'generation' teaching.
Paul
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Can't speak with me, unless they need something
by Stan Conroy inafter many, many years outside of the jw world, my elderly parents finally decided to give me an ultimatum.
i either rejoin the jw's or they will never speak with me again.
apparently my brother is going to get the same choice.
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digderidoo
Guys we've missed a first poster...
Welcome milola, you'll find many here who have been through a similar experience.
Paul
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Help on becoming a Jehovahs Witness
by tpadgett ini am seventeen years of age and have been born into christianity by my parents.
for some reason i havent really been all that into going to my christian church.
some of the things we discuss are very confusing.
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digderidoo
Posted on JWS by the original poster ... haha lol all i have to say is F*** you and what you stand for.
This person is a troll
Paul