That's because it's a time for 'testing'.
There is a 'sifting' going on. Plus nobody know the day or the hour, but it's soon, so close, very near and just around the corner brothers.
Paul
right now.......and since 1995.....wt has no real teaching to show how close we are to the end......none......most dubs prob dont even know......but wt has always been about dates.....and how close the end is to those dates......but now.....since we unplugged the generation of 1914 to the end of the world.......and now that we are still recruiting the anointed for heaven......the last days can last and last and last......duh...that is why they are called the last days!!
!........and so do they still teach it is "very, very near" (only used one time in wt)....or "imminent" ??
?......just a year ago i think?.......so how close do they say we are now and why?.........damm the bible is soooo clear that nobody knows the day or hour...yet i bet they still say is just around the corner (based on what scripture!?!??!?!?!)..........
That's because it's a time for 'testing'.
There is a 'sifting' going on. Plus nobody know the day or the hour, but it's soon, so close, very near and just around the corner brothers.
Paul
hi all, at the conclusion of my pioneer school we took a group photo with the instructors.
we had to chip in $$ to hire a professional photographer (who was a brother).
it is a custom with all pioneer schools in australia to take a class photo with the instructors (much like gilead photo).. do they do that in any other countries?
I still have mine from 1989 and the book too.
Paul
meetings and the service has been suspended in mexico according to this pro jw site.
apparently all co's are getting letters to forward to say they can do the service by telephone or letters but not door to door.. the site is in spanish.
http://noticias.amigostestigos.com/actividad-teocratica-suspendida-en-mexico/.
Meetings and the service has been suspended in Mexico according to this pro JW site. Apparently all CO's are getting letters to forward to say they can do the service by telephone or letters but not door to door.
The site is in Spanish
http://noticias.amigostestigos.com/actividad-teocratica-suspendida-en-mexico/
Here is the English translation
I wonder how many Mexican JW's are jumping up and down?
Paul
i've been lurking on the sidelines for a while and have decided to jump in and introduce myself.
the name kinda gives it away.
i'm a lifer who got a shocker about a year ago by stumbling across the 607 baloney.
Welcome to the forum, it was the 607 that made me finally see the light too.
Paul
its has been almost two decades if i am correct since ray franz released the heartbreaking books: "crisis of conscience" and "in search of christian freedom".
since then, many of us have been released from bondage of the wts and set free.
by the way, where is ray franz today, what is he doing?
Is Ray Franz's email the one on the home page of that site?
Paul
things become very surreal.............not many details for me....but i did cross center lane.....and nearly died in a head on..........you?.
I've only ever done it in my partying days.
Paul
let's try this again...most of us are aware that all available evidence points to the time of jerusalem's destruction at the 586/7bc time frame.
overwhelming evidence includes astronomical phenomena, achaeological evidence, bank records, the bible itself.. some hold to 607bc, for obvious reasons- the implications it has.
thoughts on how this would effect the average witness if forced to conclude 607 is wrong?
Davegod.....The 1914 date has been changed many times. What came of that? 607 is moot, IMO some of you here spend way too much time trying to quantify it. Without and end game, what differance does it make? The generation that will not pass away has been dropped. So what differance does it make when or if Jesus took over? If a day in his court yard is as a 1000 years elswhere? The end may not come for centuries. The end has always been near, just not in our or anyone elses lifetime.
Dave, for me finally realising 607 is wrong was massive. Finally i could see the Watchtower Society that i had put so much faith in for my whole life was wrong. If they were wrong on this then surely they can be wrong on other issues too.
The very fact that i can prove the Watchtower wrong has been one of the biggest releases of my life. I could always criticise the UN stance, the child abuse scandals, the disfellowshipping stance, but in my opinion the WTS always comes back with an excuse or half hearted answer to these issues. But when i realised they have no comeback or excuse whatsoever on the 607 issue the penny finally dropped for me and in turn i realised their excuses for all the other issues was nothing more than BS.
Whilst the 607 issue may not be the biggest issue for you, it is the biggest issue for many of us here, for others it may be the UN or disfellowshipping, we all have that one straw that finally broke the camels back.
For me that straw is 607 v 587/6.
Paul
before i begin, i want to say that i really don't want to start yet another creation vs evolution debate so please don't go down that road with this thread.
that debate has been done many times aleady!.
i know there are many christians and other religious people on here who believe in god or gods and yet do accept evolution as the way we all came about.
Good question amhaaret.
Paul
i got talking to my mother yesterday about my alcoholism issues and slightly touched upon how my jw past has had a bearing on it.. she was telling me about a lady who cuts my nan's hair who turns out is an ex jw and we know her family.
apparently this lady drinks heavily and every day, at the same time is angry about her jw past and the way she's treated by family even though sh'es not df'ed.. we had a small chat about my alcoholism and that i could relate to this lady.. anyway it got me realising that there are a number here who have similar issues, so i would like to post this link.. http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/.
it's a forum that covers addiction in general, it has helped me loads.
What's LLB mean, dig?
I't latin for Bachelor of Laws blondie. I got the following from wiki,
The "LL." of the abbreviation for the degree is from the genitive plural legum (of lex, legis f., law), thus "LL.B." stands for Legum Baccalaureus in Latin
It's basically the qualifying degree that all barristers and solicitors in England and Wales must take before they get their vocational training.
I haven't really got practicing law as a goal, but would like to get into teaching or research. It opens up doors for many things, the degree i'm doing is the oldest LLB in the country with London Uni, i've even got an option of studying at Cambridge for a week each year, which is unbelievable considering i was a homeless drunk 6 years ago.
Paul
i got talking to my mother yesterday about my alcoholism issues and slightly touched upon how my jw past has had a bearing on it.. she was telling me about a lady who cuts my nan's hair who turns out is an ex jw and we know her family.
apparently this lady drinks heavily and every day, at the same time is angry about her jw past and the way she's treated by family even though sh'es not df'ed.. we had a small chat about my alcoholism and that i could relate to this lady.. anyway it got me realising that there are a number here who have similar issues, so i would like to post this link.. http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/.
it's a forum that covers addiction in general, it has helped me loads.
BTTT