Posts by Dino

wbts insists on jesus' reply to the sadducees as literal about who's gonna marry whom in the new order because of multiple marriages in this life (asked by dudes who did not even believe in the resurrection and were always trying to come up with some riddle to trick jesus) is very important to the wbts and also very stupid.

imagine the vast preponderance of those resurrected as having been married before death.

if they "neither marry nor are given in marriage," that means that the overwhelming majority of people resurrected will constitute a sexless class.

Dino

Excellent posts, Rico, and might I add:

Welcome!

Dino

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WTS Document found in UN Collection - MAJOR

by hawkaw in

i have received a package from the united nations high commissioner for human rights.

you may recall that dino found out that the uns high commissioners office in geneva, switzerland has in its collection the november 22, 1998 awake!

magazine article titled a long job finished (pages 3 and 4) and a second article titled the universal declaration of human rights (page 5).

Dino

You bet Hawk.

Thank you for the clarification on that article.

I also wanted to mention that the link that skally provided to the ThinkCenter is excellent. Here it is again:

< http://www.thinkcentre.org/article.cfm?ArticleID=55

There has GOT to be a story in there somewhere!

Amnesty International has big-time UN blessing and a globalist agenda.

Did the UN set policy for the WT in the area of civilian service?
I am only going on memory, but I think we had "new light" on that in the 1996 WT "God and the State".

Anyhow, just thinking outloud and maybe I could get some thoughts from a few here on the board.

Thanks again,Hawk

Dino

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WTS Document found in UN Collection - MAJOR

by hawkaw in

i have received a package from the united nations high commissioner for human rights.

you may recall that dino found out that the uns high commissioners office in geneva, switzerland has in its collection the november 22, 1998 awake!

magazine article titled a long job finished (pages 3 and 4) and a second article titled the universal declaration of human rights (page 5).

Dino

Hello Hawk and all!

Just wanted to bring this to the fore again, and add a few comments.

I went over this article word for word and it appears that the UN/DPI made no changes. We should all appreciate what Hawk has done here and many have expressed gratitude. What Hawk obtained effectively dispells the myth that what was presented to the UN for their approval prior to the printing of the November 22nd Awake! was propaganda for the WT.

Please note that ONLY the first article on pages 3-5 of that Awake! were submitted to the UN, entitled A"LONG JOB FINISHED".
The following articles, "A View from the 29th Floor","Human Rights and Wrongs Today", and finally, "Human Rights for All A Worldwide Reality!, evidently were not submitted to the UN. These could rightly be considered as propaganda for the WT.

When this issue was released, I was service overseer in my congregation. It was my custom to rise early on Saturday morning to review the WT and Awake magazines in order to bring out the field service points therein. I was probably no different from any other over-worked elder or publisher who was swamped with WT supplied reading material. And I admit that the Watchtower was the magazine that I perused. But I do remember thinking that this particular Awake article (A Long Job Finished)was strange in that it was not your typical UN jeremiad. But the following articles pointing to Jehovah's kingdom allayed those feelings of unease.

Fast forward to 2001 and their duplicity is evident.

Now before some point to the three questions under the last subheading in the article handed to the UN, "High Expectations", as proof that they were turning to WT propaganda in THAT article, consider this.
Reread carefully the last paragraph on page four. Note the question, "Are the UN member states measuring up to this yardstick?

Is this criticism of the UN? No indeed. It is a criticism of its members. The UN has the same view.

Note what the October 22nd 1985 Awake! had to say on this.
In the article "The UN-God's Way to Peace?, former Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim was quoted as saying: "One should realize that the United Nations is, after all, the world in microcosm. Its weaknesses must consequently be ascribed primarily to the contradictions that characterize the world community itself." He adds: "I should point out that it (the UN)(parentheses theirs) is no more than a mirror of the world it serves. That world is a conglomerate of extremely varied, often intractable, passionate, and antagonistic nations."
Copyright 1998 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. All rights reserved.

That is also the UN's current view of its activities. Anything that underlines those frustrations (of dealing with varied member states)is welcomed.

In my opinion, the WT did live up to its obligations as a UN associated NGO, all the while walking the highwire of not unduly upsetting the rank and file.

That is what makes these documents from Geneva so important!

Did I mention THANKS HAWK!!!!
We appreciate your selfless labor in our behalf!

Dino

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Ankerburg Finally Comes Thru On UN-NGO Publicity!

by MadApostate in

jehovah's witnesses and their strange bedfellows.

by lorri macgregor.

the watchtower organization of jehovah's witnesses has done some strange "bedfellow" partnering in the past.

Dino

Nice attitude.

You say that about MA, but once again, the words "So what!", speaks volumes.

As for replacing the watchtower belief system, that is each ones own journey. Something I would never presume to do.

I will waste no more time on you.

Dino

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Ankerburg Finally Comes Thru On UN-NGO Publicity!

by MadApostate in

jehovah's witnesses and their strange bedfellows.

by lorri macgregor.

the watchtower organization of jehovah's witnesses has done some strange "bedfellow" partnering in the past.

Dino

Well that IS good news. John Ankerburg in conjunction with Lori MacGregor has assisted many honest people out of that org. It can be very frustrating getting some of the media to run with this story.

RR, you said, So what?
This appears to be a knee-jerk reaction to Mad Apostate's ability to pin your ears back in the area of early Russellite history. If you are a "supporter of Christ", why not put your petty differences with MA aside and get with the program yourself. Jesus would be pleased if you could assist in saving just one life. Maybe you already do that, however, all I have to go on is the "so what" post in answer to good news regarding more publicity about UN scandal. Now I know MA wont win any personality contests, but that is his way. At least he is working on this issue. Wouldnt Jesus want you to pull your stinger back in, and not look for ways to sow discord?

MA, thanks for posting this

Dino

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"Changes in blood policy"(5/2001 arti...

by sf in

jw
friends

a "wow" page:.

< http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/322/7294/1123.

skally

Dino

Thanks sKally, and welcome, Available Light.

Dino

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Maid makes soup from her panties....

by ISP in

jw
friends

sounds fishy to me....... maids brief bid to control boss.

kuantan: an indonesian maid here allegedly boiled soup soaked with her underwear and served it to her employer.

unknown to her, her bizarre culinary work was recorded by a closed-circuit television camera installed by her employer, a businessman, in his jalan beserah house.

Dino

Menstruation, I mean uh, Minestrone?

Dino

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"Jehovah's blessing" ?

by AlanF in

jw
friends

someone i know recently attended one of the kingdom ministry schools for elders.

he indicated that after one session, he approached a speaker and told him how much he enjoyed the man's speech.

the speaker replied, "jehovah's blessing.".

Dino

Angelo Manera uses the same line.
He made my flesh crawl.
Dino