Livingalie~
Welcome to the board! I left the Brooklyn in 79', bindery & Inkroom....Let's hear your stories!
GYMBB
hello to all im new to the site i have been looking for about two weeks now .i was at brooklyn bethel from 1994 -1999 and i worked in the barber shop office blgd.
(25 columbia heights ) .i just wanted to say hi and that many of your post have really been helpful to me as i have gone though some tough times on all levels .
thanks for letting me just state that .
Livingalie~
Welcome to the board! I left the Brooklyn in 79', bindery & Inkroom....Let's hear your stories!
GYMBB
i know this has probably been discussed before, but i would like to take a poll of your thoughts as to what you personally would do, disassociate yourself or just fade over time.
i've been in the process of "fading" myself since november of last year, (last meeting in january, and never going back).
i have been considering making it official though by formal letter of da.
Fade if you can, I say.... at least family and friends still talk to you. Slowly start making new (real) friends outside the 'borg'.
If you do decide to DA, be ready for the shunning, even from people you think are close to you, that can hurt. The longer you've been a dub, the tougher it is, and they want it that way. I was a dub 40+ years before I DA'd myself, and I was not ready yet, and it was hard.
a few points from the 2006 biannual c.o.
meeting w/elders & ms. the theme was "take a personal interest in others"...phil 2:4,5. shepherding work.
we have lives in our hands.
This is just my two cents, but, ...the more we hear about "contacting the legal department immediately", I think the faster this cult is going down like a sinking ship.
FREEDOM!! Congrats to you Lola! Sometimes it's the only way, and sometimes it's the best way. GYMBB
i was told by a reliable source that the organization will be making a "big announcement" at the end of the summer when all the dcs have ended.
has anyone else heard this?
maybe this is the "new light" they have alluded to in recent wt study articles?
It still amazes me that the rank and file dub thinks that the old geezers in Brooklyn actually get to 'communicate' something with Jehovah FIRST before it gets passed down to the congregations.......something new, something special, ooooohhh!! Maybe a new tract!!! (I just won't be able to sleep tonight!)
This is probably just some business arrangement change, that more than likely will save them some $$............ if anything at all. GYMBB
before i am criticized for this, please understand the difficulty of having this book in the house while still a jw.
i was hoping to find this book or portions of it online.
please pm me if you have any details.
Crumpet,
I'm confused....when you finished reading C of C, you say JW's are, "fundamentally right", right about what? GYMBB
this one ranged all over the place.
i post these because i am hoping someone can give me additional advice.
wife: why didn't you want to read the daily text to the kids?
Under-believer,
There are so many different people and personalities it's hard to say which is the best way to approach a dub with "logical" thoughts regarding their beliefs that simply make no sense. Depending on how long they've been in the org., they really aren't used to it (independant thinking remember?).
I've been pondering this myself for awhile, I have a sister that i'd like to help see the truth about the 'Truth'. Sometimes you just want slap 'em, (but that probably wouldn't go over well).
My ex-wife and I had a few 'discussions' about the same way after I DA'd and
before she filed for divorce.....
Me: "How are you going to explain going to our daughter's wedding (she's faded) when she's getting married in a church?"
Ex-wife: "Witnesses can do that".
Me: "Since when? And if that's true, WHY are you trying to TALK HER OUT OF getting married in the church that she's been baptized in, and REGULARLY ATTENDS??"
Ex-wife: "I'm not suppose to talk to you about spiritual matters!" She turns and walks away.....
GYMBB
on sunday of the dc i was waiting outside for my wife (because i had no desire to enter).
we started toward the car as soon as she exited the building.. as we walked, i overheard one elderly sister saying to another elderly sister, "see?
the time is close.
Freetobeme: Good point. I also think that there will always be SOME JW around.....diehards.
So, how do you soften the blow that they live in a fantasyworld? Although somewhat smaller, there's another generation of dubs coming along too.....who's going to be around to soften the blow to them, and the next, and the next, etc.? It's not the first christian-like religion to come along and die out in a hundred years or so after so many unfulfilled prophecies. GYMBB
i am familiar with the jehovahs witness faith though i have never belonged to it.
i am not attracted to it.
i am deeply interested in the welfare of individuals who have been injured in their souls.
Hi Rose! I'm new here too....tell us about yourself! And WELCOME! GYMBB
mine.... i was about 10 years old, working with one of the pioneers in our hall, and we came across a gentleman that screamed obcenities at us and threatened to kill us unless we left his porch.
i wet my pants.
the pioneer i was with told me that i was a 'weak little witness that brought shame to jehovah for wetting my pants,' and that my punishment would be finishing out the morning's service with wet, piss stained pants.. it was february in toronto.
The very first day, FIRST DOOR I went to as a bethelite in Brooklyn in 1976, the householder was doing some brick work on his porch, and with a real strong Italian accent he said, "I'm gonna putta' thisa' bricka' righta' thru yo' face!!" and then chased us down the street with a brick in one hand and a trowel in the other!
A couple years later the jewish neighborhood we went to in Brooklyn formed a mob and turned over a couple witness cars! It was actually reported in the Watchtower, "Watching the world"(sometime in 78' I think) There were a few of the local bro's that got their asses kicked pretty good too, right there in Brooklyn! Not me tho'....I boogied out to the subway and my roommate was driven back to bethel by the police. GYMBB