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  Had a visit last Saturday from an elder....

  by gymbob in

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  he said he was just checking addresses because my house was on the "do not call" list, and he was checking to see if the same people lived here or had moved away.

  so i told him that nobody that lives in this house has asked jw's not to call, and that it was probably at the request of my ex-wife who knows i don't attend anymore.. so he gives me that ookaaayy look..... i'm out working in the yard and so we sit down in the garage to have a chat..... he doesn't know me, but i remember him from a different cong., and he doesn't know i da'd myself over 5 years ago.

  he also doesn't know how much i've learned and how long i've been waiting for this day!.

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  gymbob

  He said he was just checking addresses because my house was on the "Do not call" list, and he was checking to see if the same people lived here or had moved away. So I told him that nobody that lives in this house has asked JW's not to call, and that it was probably at the request of my ex-wife who knows I don't attend anymore.

  So he gives me that ookaaayy look..... I'm out working in the yard and so we sit down in the garage to have a chat....

  He doesn't know me, but I remember him from a different cong., and he doesn't know I DA'd myself over 5 years ago. He also doesn't know how much I've learned and how long I've been waiting for this day!

  We actually had a great conversation, I remained very calm and cool, and I'm sure he expected me to be different, and i'm sure he felt like a guy who brought a knife to a gunfight. We spoke about the society's involvement in the U.N., child ped. cases settled out of court, the WTB&TS never getting one thing right in over 100 years, etc. He tried to make me look like I didn't know about the organization, so I told him that I remember when the bible and the songbooks were green, and of the many years I served as a BETHELITE, or VACATION, TEMPORARY, AUG., REGULAR and SPECIAL PIONEER.

  He never had one answer. This guy has been a elder for 20+ years......amazing these people just don't get it. A few times in our little chat I could actually see his eyes just glaze over, like he's not heard a thing I've said.

  In the end, he said he would keep my address on the "do not call" list, but I told him he didn't need to do that..... I don't mind talking to witnesses at all!
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  External, Observable, Verifiable Evidence Of God...

  by Tuesday in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  lovely lil started a thread that said it had external evidence of jesus' which i think proved rather useless and ultimately ended in debate about god's existence.

  she said she wanted to start another thread about proof that god exists so i figured i would.

  so this thread would be for actual proof of god.

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  Lil,

  If they all worship the same god, and scripture interpretation isn't that important for people of "faith", then....WHAT DIFFERANCE DOES IT MAKE??
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  Could U Please Cite Some Personal Interesting Observations About The Truth?

  by minimus in

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  for anyone that looks at this thread, could you write something either profound or simply interesting so as to make the reader see the truth about "the truth"?

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  gymbob

  When I was leaving "The Truth", I asked my dad (the elder) this question: Is there any way possible that the witnesses might not be who they claim to be? He didn't even have to think about it, but answered, NO WAY. So I said, "Is it POSSIBLE for you to be wrong about that?", and he said, "no, it's impossible for them not to be who they claim to be".

  This is how JW's believe. I believe any JW would answer the same way.

  To say it's IMPOSSIBLE that you're wrong is the definition of being CLOSED-MINDED.

  Since leaving the witnesses I have asked this same couple of questions to Mormons, Christian fundamentalists, Jews, etc about their own beliefs, and get the same response......

  Everybody has the truth, just ask them and they will tell you!
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  Loving email helps identify true religion

  by Shepherd Book in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i sent them this email:.

  you might like to see this site: http://www.watchtowerletters.com.

  it has a lot of correspondence with the brothers at bethel and gives a lot of great information.. thanks!.

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  Good reply Lt.CmdLore!!
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  do you know anyone that did "it "before the wedding in the kingdom hall ?

  by looloo in

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  2. scandals

  i know of quite a few that did , some have never been found out , are they asked by the elders before the wedding if they have done it ?

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  I know a guy who had sex with himself at the KH....during the meeting in the restroom! EEEEWWWWW!!!!
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  Could You Live Without God?

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have said before in past posts - i think a belief in a god is because of two bad reasons.. 1. ignorance (not always deliberate at all) of certain facts.

  the universe and life on earth was not designed.. 2. wanting to believe in a god.. so, to focus on the second, i can see why people would want there to be a god.. you see dead loved ones again, you live forever, you have a purpose set out for you, you feel there's always a being with you through even your most difficult times.

  for those who believe in a god, could you live without one?

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  Journey-on,

  How and where do I get the, "right software and operating system"?
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  Could You Live Without God?

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have said before in past posts - i think a belief in a god is because of two bad reasons.. 1. ignorance (not always deliberate at all) of certain facts.

  the universe and life on earth was not designed.. 2. wanting to believe in a god.. so, to focus on the second, i can see why people would want there to be a god.. you see dead loved ones again, you live forever, you have a purpose set out for you, you feel there's always a being with you through even your most difficult times.

  for those who believe in a god, could you live without one?

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  gymbob

  Well I live very nicely without god, but I also wish that there was one.....

  What normal person would choose not to have a real personal relationship with the creator of the universe?

  Answer: Nobody. It's just that whoever started this thing we call life is not around here anymore, and even if he was here, he wouldn't hear your prayers and know your innermost thoughts, and certainly wouldn't care to be worshipped.

  Just my two cents. Gymbob
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  This insurance commercial is too funny!

  by MsMcDucket in

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  kid's say the darndest things!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m7a6gmnsha

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  gymbob

  That was great!! "He was injured.....injured bad". HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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  Things You HATED About Being a JW

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there were a few things that i hated about being a witness.. i love music and live concerts.

  quite often i'd have to play my music privately or hide an album cover for fear it might "stumble" someone.

  i hated worrying whether someone was going to somehow get "stumbled.. regarding going to concerts, it seemed that certain artists only came to town on a meeting night and i'd miss the shows.. what did you hate about being a jehovah's witness?.

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  I hated not being able to play sports in school. I was pretty good, and sometimes I wonder how good....

  I hated public speaking, but, "That's what you need to do in order to progress in the organization".

  I hated having to go uninvited to the home of a complete stranger, and stand on his porch and try to get him to change his own personal beliefs.

  I hated being a kid and thinking that some day I might have to be in prison because I didn't join the military.

  I hated not being able to let my non-JW grandparents have a normal birthday party, Christmas, Easter, Halloween, etc with their grandkids.

  I hated not being normal. Gymbob
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  What if regular meeting attendance wasn't a requirement?

  by R.F. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know how regular meeting attendance is the ultimate way of measuring the "faith" of those among the religion, other than field service reports.

  what do you think would happen with the attendance numbers if you were only encouraged to go as a sort of option, if you weren't hounded for not attending regularly?

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  Maddie is spot on.....

  Regular meeting attendance is part of the indoctrination part of the cult.

  When you start missing the meetings you start "sobering up" and see clearer how much BS is taught at the hall.