MTM~
Welcome! I lurked for a while too, I think most of us did a little. You will be glad you, "took the plunge", the water's fine....
Can you tell us more about your story? Gymbob
i say this because i have been helped so much by the many posts that represent the way i feel about the wtbts.
it is good to know that there are so many people that feel this way.
i am currently inactive and dont comment but do attend meetings for the sake of the family.. my wife is still in and i have a daughter and one on the way.
MTM~
Welcome! I lurked for a while too, I think most of us did a little. You will be glad you, "took the plunge", the water's fine....
Can you tell us more about your story? Gymbob
the society teaches that once the new order is up and running, we will achieve perfection as adam and eve once were.
if thats the case, why do they portray folks in the new order as fully clothed?
i thought clothing was the result of sin, so once sin is eliminated, should not clothing be also?
Like Blondie, I asked this question a number of times when I was still in "Da Troof".
This may sound a little weird, but, most of the people I spoke with on this subject either said: A) That's speculation, and we shouldn't do that. B) We wear clothing to cover shame and embarrassment, both of which are sins, and if we are not sinful we obviously won't need clothing. C) Of course we'll have clothing. (Most of those answering "C" had bodies nobody would ever want to see naked). Gymbob
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Thanks Barb, I'll sleep much better now!!
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You guys remember the name of the asst. Ink room overseer back in the mid-70's? White guy married to a beautiful black lady....his first name was Greg......kinda driving me crazy. Gymbob
was it in school?
at work?
at a meeting?
Bethel talk at 79' DC in Nashville. On stage, had my fly down during the whole thing. Realized it at the end of the talk, turned bright red. Gymbob
my wife planned to get her two-hours of service time on saturday - like we did every month.
two hours.
well, yesterday she came home early with sad news.
In the last few years of being out and away from the witness world I've noticed a big differance between the way non-witnesses react to death and the way I was raised as a witness.
We all know about witness funerals in a kingdom hall sounding like a sunday sermon, never really mentioning much about the person who has past, but more about what that person believed and their hope for the future.
I believe witnesses, in general, don't know what to do, or how to react to death because of their belief system.
the march 15, 1980 watchtower article "choosing the best way of life" contains, on pages 17-18, a partial text of the talk.
in modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth.
with the appearance of the book life everlasting-in freedom of the sons of god, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man's existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. there were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility.
Minister~
Can you explain your post? What the hell......
after all these years, i finally experienced this weird deep sense of calm, peaceful resignation.
i realized after desperately wanting my jw sister and the other witness family members to see the real "truth" about the organization that now i dont want to change them anymore.
i have absolutely no desire to pontificate on the absurdity of believing the doctrines and directives of the watchtower society.
If they ask, go ahead and answer any questions they have. I quit trying a few years back with my family and know just how you feel....at peace with myself. It's their problem not ours.
did you accept everything the "slave" said?
I always believed it was wrong and disrespectful to sit during the playing of the national anthem......
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Steak and Brew was about the only place a poor bethelite could afford to eat....accept for a slice at Fascati's Pizza! Thanks for the memories...... Gymbob