Posts by DJ

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3 Parts: Psych Issues When Leaving Restrictive Relig Grps- Print Copy

by Frannie Banannie in

psychological issues of former members of .

a restrictive religious group.. .

issues of the former member in psychotherapy.

Now That You've Left The Organization, Are You "Going Back To The Vomit?"

by minimus in

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friends

whenever you read the society's publications regarding "apostates" and those that simply leave the organization, you will see how the watchtower will try to make such ones horrible persons.

they are said to be "rotten, like gangrene, those going back to their vomit".

they are said to re-adopt all of babylon the great's terrible practices.

How many of you are happy with doing the holidays?

by Singing Man in

i like the holidays.

they give me something to look forward to besides the asembleys and memoral and the deer hunt.

and to heck with you jw's who come in here with your smug ways, why don't you try questioning a few things for a change you will be surprized with what you discover.

DJ

me too phantom....I also hate Halloween, I mean what is that anyway? lol....

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How many of you are happy with doing the holidays?

by Singing Man in

i like the holidays.

they give me something to look forward to besides the asembleys and memoral and the deer hunt.

and to heck with you jw's who come in here with your smug ways, why don't you try questioning a few things for a change you will be surprized with what you discover.

DJ

LOL Naeblis.....you are such a wise a--.

Singingman,

Take it easy and enjoy your celebrations. There is no harm in love. I love them too and now I understand why. love, dj

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should witnesses be vegetarian?

by spider in

vegetarianism and the respect for life .

or why aren?t witnesses vegetarian?.

this is not my own argument for vegetarianism, but merely one which i might challenge a witness to, from the perspective of their own belief system.

DJ

Oh spider.......the wt won't teach vegetarianism because the 7th day Adventists already took that one. They split from each other 100 years ago.

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This might be of some value

by onacruse in

in a used book store the other day, i got a copy of the 1970 nwt (6th printing, 16,000,000 copy), bound with the 1965 make sure, and the 1950 defending and legally establishing the good news.

the appendix includes "a listing of outstanding word changes in the 1970 revised bible.".

if anyone needs scans of certain pages from this, please let me know.

DJ

Hi Craig,

I would love to see a scan of the word changes list. If you can, that would be great. love, dj

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What Does the WBTS Really Offer?

by Perry in

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friends

the wtbs offers solutions.

....eagerly anticipate the global bloodletting of billions of people (the wbts will grind your axe for you so you don't get in trouble with the law), become a prince (in your own mind), be a teacher instead of a student, wear nice clothes instead of janitor work clothes, imagine yourself very intelligent without ever getting an education, feel cock sure that god will vindicate his holy name (and yours along with it.

in other words, show all the people who screwed you over that you really were the smart one), feel very important because even though god has hidden these things from men, he chose to reveal them to you, have your choice of really big expensive houses after the big a hits, save your money by not wasting it on charities, be holy even as jehovah your god is holy, have instant friends without having to go to the trouble of getting to really know them, feel sorry for the misguided (intact) families that attend church, suffer for righteousness sake thereby guaranteeing god's favor, memorize the correct verbage for counseling others (meetings and field serevice), stop 'sighing and groaning' because the wbts will wipe your bum for you, defeat the devil by being on the winning side of a cosmic power struggle, show your loyalty by shunning family members that don't agree with you, possibly meet governing body members at conventions (christ's brothers), eat fresh warm krispy kreme donuts after desparately trying to save lives for 45 minutes on saturday morning, become a bible scholar, save expensive tuition costs by getting the equivalent of a college degree by reading the awake, and last but not least :

DJ

Hooberus........good points that I've never even connected. I am wondering if you would supply me with the quotes that prove that is what they teach. I know that you're right but I'd like to be able to have it in my hands when I bring this topic up with my mom. Thanks...you can pm if you want to. love, dj

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Spiritual Terrorism

by Xandria in

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friends

i look at what many have gone through here as spiritual terrorism.

inability to remember

talk to people - talk is the most healing thing you can do.

DJ

Xandria,

Very good. You zoned right in on what it is like. People who haven't gone thru that can't understand it and that's why I am so glad to have found all of you. I wonder if it ever goes completley away? It has been 7 years for me and I am a Christian now, yet I still suffer these after effects at times. It is a hard way to live. Your post pegged it all. Thanks..love, dj

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? for those being shunned who have little kids...

by flower in

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friends

if you have young children and you are shunned by other family members what you have told your children about why?

my son (4) and i need to have a chat soon and i'm really not certain what i am going to say to him.

he loves his auntie and uncle and gramma and he wants to see them.

DJ

Hi Flower,

My daughter was 5 and I was pregnant with my son when we were first shunned. My daughter had a close relationship with my dad prior to that. When she asked me where Grandpop was...I was plain honest with her. I felt that if she was old enough to ask then she was old enough to be told the truth. She was sad and we shared tears over it. I figured that if she spoke to my dad and wanted to ask him why....then he ought to have to explain it to her. When my son was born, he didn't even know his grandparents or aunts or uncles until he was 4 when my dad became terminally ill and I was allowed back into the family to help with his care. My dad is still alive and my son is now 6, he knows that they are a different religion and that they do not like ours, and that one day they just may cut off all ties again. As for my daughter, she has outgrown her pain and realizes that some love is conditional. She's just fine and loves them anyway. I know that you don't want to hurt your little boy but I don't feel that you will, if you show him that it makes you sad too. Welcome him to the not so pretty world with all the love you can muster.

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JW's .... why AREN'T we more like JEWS ???

by RubaDub in

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friends

i never got a good answer on this question and have discussed this with other members in the borg:.

we jw's share a lot in common with jews.

just in this century, both groups have suffered extreme persecution, especially under the nazis in europe.

DJ

We JW's share a lot in common with Jews. Just in this century, both groups have suffered extreme persecution, especially under the Nazis in Europe. Both groups have in one way or another, been victims of religious hatred and often discriminated against because of their beliefs. This has often resulted in each group being relatively isolated from others in whatever country they live in.

Cow manure! Hitler persecuted all religions that weren't like him, not just jw's or even the Jewish people. Jw's are not persecuted, they are persecutORS. I am amazed at my family and how all of the non jw members reach out in love to the jw members......only to be walked and looked down upon and condemned. Please rub a dub......show me where jws are persecuted more than your average joe?