Posts by LisaRose

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They're Making it Impossible to Fade

by DarioKehl in

for those of you who have already faded due to family still being in, have you noticed how the noose is tightening?.

if it's not memorial, it's special day assembly.

if it's not that, it's convention or the special talk.

LisaRose

I think a lot of it is in how you respond when questioned. If you don't feel guilty and refuse to give out any personal details, the elders will have a hard time getting to you. We all know JWs who get away with horrible conduct and never seem to get caught.

Not that it's your fault, they have had years to control you and even knowing the TTATT does not make the mind control go away over night. But the sooner you can get to the point where you know you owe nothing to these people, the sooner you can break free. It's a process, it takes some people longer than others.

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Eighty-Four year old drives her disfellowshipped son to meetings and sits inside Kingdom Hall.

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i have a customer who's son is a jehovah's witness.

he was disfellowshipped over a year ago.

this is the second time he's been disfellowshipped.

LisaRose

I don't know what they are saying lately, but back in the day it was considered acceptable to give a disfellowshipped one a ride to the meeting. But forget kindness and mercy because most people won't due to fear of what people would think.

Why not share the ttatt with mom so she can free her son from this stupid religion?

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Mays JW TV Broadcast/Your feedback is appreciated

by ToesUp in

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friends

i have a pretty good intuition but i have to admit i am going back and forth on the jw tv may broadcast.

i keep asking myself are they really in financial trouble (wishful thinking) or are they just grabbing for more money?.

i always appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and ideas on here.. let me know what you think.

LisaRose

The only difference now between the GB and televangelists like Jim Bakker, Pat Robertson and the like is that they were at least somewhat entertaining while begging for money. People gave because they made it feel good to give. With the GB you are supposed to pony up and yet still feel guilty.

I think they have made a huge mistake in making these broadcasts. The emperor has no clothes and now everyone can see it.

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My Last thoughts in Field Service Before the Elderly Man Shat Himself and Pissed his pants in My New Car!

by PokerPlayerPhil in

debating this was going to be the last day in field service was not hard after dealing with a nasty mess because i was grouped with the misfits of the kingdom hall!

i was reading this website on my phone while something started to stink in my car and one of the weird kids nobody wanted to work with yelled "hey, you leaking all over my seat, he was freaked out too!

" the older, retired elder, his pioneer daughter had forgotten to put his depends on and that became my problem.

LisaRose

When I was a young married woman we lived in a poor area with a lot of older sisters with no car. They would go out in service then expect us to take them on errands, paying the gas bill, grocery store runs, etc. I didn't mind sometimes but they never asked, just assumed. I got tired of running a taxi service, especially if I had other plans.

One time no one showed up to unlock the hall and an older sister hadn't had time to draw her eyebrows on, so she asked me to do it for her while we were waiting. I had no idea how to do that and it gave me the creeps, ugh.

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Stephen Lett admits income/expenditure shortfall as he reminds Witnesses to donate “valuable things”

by defender of truth in

it's well worth taking a look at the article, it will only take you a few minutes.

but i would particularly like to highlight this part: .

if you are going to divulge a shortfall in funds, particularly with the aim of leveraging more donations (or valuable things) from a pool of supporters who are already lagging in this regard, the least you can do is treat them like adults and give some hard numbers.

LisaRose

When I was bamboozled into joining this religion they were very proud of the fact that they did not pass a plate for donations and did not ask for pledges, for "God loves a cheerful giver" They also denounced other churches for doing so. At least with churches there is some accountability, while who knows where the money goes with these clowns?

Shaking down the congregations for every available dollar, bait and switch with disaster relief, sleight of hand with convention funds, they are starting to make televangelists look like amateurs by comparison. I think people are catching on and voting with their pocketbook. It's a losing game, they more they attempt to squeeze out donations the more people get turned off and find other uses for their hard earned cash. The logical next step is to have "New light" on donations and start tracking who gives and who doesn't.

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GB’s spring cleaning helps faders

by wheelwithinwheel in

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friends

the gbs 2015 doctrinal spring cleaning is a gift to all faders.

when we were fading they were grappling with the dying generation.

their ensuing explanations made our diminishing meeting attendance and service easily explainable.

LisaRose

The way you guys talk make it sound like life under communism. Big brother is watching you, anyone can become suspect, retribution is swift and terrible. I can't imagine what a toll it takes to live like that.

I faded while not realizing I was doing so. I was simply considered weak, a sister with a disfellowshipped husband, so I didn't much count anyway, I had been inactive for a few years, then I moved out of state.

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Atheist Miracles

by Perry in

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friends

i reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.

no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!

they keep me from getting bored.

LisaRose

What would you guys do if you didn't have Perry? He raises the typical weak arguments of the average believer and sets you up to look like geniuses by comparison. Are you sure he isn't othe alter ego of one of you?

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Prayer with my son before lunch. Your advice / experiences needed!

by Daniel1555 in

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friends

dear friends,.

i would like to hear your comments or suggestions on the following:.

a little background info.. i managed to fade completely.

LisaRose

I fondly remember my (cat hating) elder father-in-law saying prayer before dinner at my house back in the day. My cat, a total revenge pooping malcontent, clawed him in the nether regions right in the middle of the thing. He calmly grabbed him by the scruff, threw him out the door and finished the prayer.

Probably not what you were looking for, but you did say you wanted experiences.

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How low can they go?

by John Aquila in

how low can they go?.

if i remember correctly, this is the lowest number of gb members the wt has had since the gb arrangement started.

they dont seem to be in any hurry to appoint any new gb members.

LisaRose

Possibly they don't have any qualified potential candidates, and by qualified I mean being willing to go along with the hypocrisy, lies and shaking down the rank and file for any every dollar they can get.

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Am I the only "witness here besides the admins?

by TheOnlyRealWittnessHere in

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friends

with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.

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the topic pretty much says everything..

LisaRose

In response to the onlytruewitness, no you are not the only witness here, but you may be the only one who still believe the governing body is the faithful and discrete slave and God's sole channel of communication with mankind.

As for me, I was a JW for thirty years, but realized the Watchtower was no different from any other religion that presumed to speak for God. My question to you is this: Why do you believe the predictions of an organization that has a 100% failure rate on date predictions? 1897, 1914, 1925, 1975 and other dates have been wrongly predicted to be the end by the Watchtower, so why do you believe them now?