Id LOVE to spend an eternity studying for one Degree after another, and reading millions of books about everything, living in an air conditioned wooden house on a beach with free internet access.
Kattiekitten your just like me, wow.
i am trying to understand how come that only 144 000 get to go to "heaven", as i understand it there are about 5 million jw in the world right now.
that means that the remaining 5 866 000 are going to be left on earth.
why would you want to serv a god that will not allow you to enter into his kingdom, to get to spend an eternity with him, i know that's what i want...
Id LOVE to spend an eternity studying for one Degree after another, and reading millions of books about everything, living in an air conditioned wooden house on a beach with free internet access.
Kattiekitten your just like me, wow.
i am trying to understand how come that only 144 000 get to go to "heaven", as i understand it there are about 5 million jw in the world right now.
that means that the remaining 5 866 000 are going to be left on earth.
why would you want to serv a god that will not allow you to enter into his kingdom, to get to spend an eternity with him, i know that's what i want...
Why would you want to serv a God that will not allow you to enter into His Kingdom, to get to spend an eternity with Him, i know that's what i want
Well, if your a sheeple you follow the shepard.
Also do you think you could take an eternity with God? Doncha think you might get on each others nerves after a while.
yesterday i saw a couple i hadn't seen for many years sitting together on the bus.
i'd always wondered if they had managed to stay together.
they looked the same, save a few more dry wrinkles, as they did twenty years ago.
I feel like God gave me a gift today. A gift of hope.
Jgnat, Thats a beautiful story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/06/us/06evangelical.html?ex=1160798400&en=93f06f4316392e8e&ei=5009&partner=msn_nythome.
looks like it's the not just the jws who have teenagers "leaving in droves".. i'm curious to see what the religious landscape will look like 20 or 30 years down the road..
In this enlightened age with the innernet and cable tv, it will be very difficult for con-men to get over on new recruits.
or as you say,Evangelicals fear the loss of their teenagers
just curious.
I usually avoid them. Unless I cant and then I have to deal with it. The only place I would care is at work, at work we have to get along, and thats my livelyhood. Anyplace else, I just go the other way, lifes to short to be pissed, or to deal with jerks.
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the men had to wear suits and the women.
Back in the 60's and 70's I used to get my hair pulled for being too long.
hi everyone just a question to satisfy my curiosity , and if you are a non believer are you happier for being so
Hello Danny, I consider myself an agnostic. Which means I dont know. In my perception after having been a witness, having read the bible cover to cover 5 times and making notes, having examined other beliefs I dont see how everyone in the world is not an agnostic. Based on the definition of agnostic below, anyone who is not would be elder material, or a good baptist preacher or a priest, or a sheeple.
1. | a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience. |
from the beginning of the jw experiance, i wondered what the plan was going to be after armegeddon.
we are to expect so much destruction, billions of people destroyed (how many birds does it take to eat 6 billion people in a timely manner?
) with the massive deaths and stuff to clean up........peoples bones for one, rebuiling and resurrecting the millions and millions that have died.....teaching them, and working to clean up the planet.
Here is the diary of an Armegeddon survivor- Carla, that was excellent, a keeper.
i remember hearing many times from the platform, and especially the assemblies, that we had to give our valuable things to jehovah till it hurt - and if it didn't hurt, we weren't struggling enough.. especially contributions - did we give till we hurt or did we give out of our surplus?
they love to use the example of the widow's mite to guilt us.. one co said that "some people only give jehovah 10 hours a month!
" - can you imagine that?
Never heard give till it hurts in the 60's and 70's must be a generation x thing.
i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.
never df'd.
could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.
BUT, I can't work out what to believe now. I don't want another religion and I'm not going looking for one. I just wonder if anyone has/is been like me. I feel like I haven't got a clue now.
Yes I have been like you, are like you, I left the org in 83, 23 years ago after being raised in the troof. You have a world of resources at your finger tips that I never had, the innernet. I could tell you that I dont think there are any answers out there, but that wouldnt help you learn to think for yourself,
You say you havent got a clue now. You cant work out what to believe. Heres some choices.
There is a god. There is no god. We evolved, we didnt evolve. We are gods. We are not gods. Life has meaning. Life has no meaning. Life is what you make it. Man came from another planet. The gods are spacemen. God will take care of you. You will take care of yourself. All religions want your energy and money. All religions dont want your energy and money. You can get something for nothing. Someone else has the answers that will make you happy. No one else has the answers that will make you happy. Happiness is the destination. Happiness is the journey. We are spirits having human experiences. There is reincarnation. There is no reincarnation. The bible is full of contradictions. There are no contradictions in the bible. You cant know god without knowing the devil. God is love. God is the cosmic joker. Jesus is god. Jesus is not god. There were many messiahs born to virgins before jesus. There were not many messiahs born to virgins before jesus. On and on and on.
The deal is when you go down one of the above roads thats your story, at least for the time being. And you tend to believe it, sometimes vehemtly, sometimes radically, sometimes passionately. But it dosent make it the troof, just your reality. This is the pleasure planet. Welcome to the forum of many truths.