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more from my story

by fiveangels in

i am in desperate need of help bad.i just found out my snake of a jw fiance already has been dating a jw,the bugger lied to me when i asked.

if there was anybody else.now i just want to make him pay for all the hurt he has caused-i know this isn't the right way to think but why should he get away twice with hurting me.i called him to ask about it and he called me a stalker.i am not just wanted the truth,is that too much to ask?.

i am dead inside.

luffy

Hi

I stopped posting here a while back and only visit to read the threads once in a while in order to keep my strength up and remind myself how lucky I really was , to find this place after my ex decided to convert and become a JW.

Revenge is pointless, reserve your dignity. The greatest talent a JW has is to "switch off" you will be ridiculed and he will be the hero for dumping a "wordly" girl in favor of a sister. It seems not matter what the circumstances, they will find an excuse for his behaviour, so long a he as "come right" in the end.

LESSON 1...I have realised that the majority of these JWS still need and cannot resist contact with us "wordly" people. Most do it on the quiet, convincing themselves that it really isnt that bad, until the sense of guilt kicks in and they start "behaving" again, only to find themselves needing the contact and once again not being able to resist. It is a vicious circle, dont become the porn.

LESSON 2...JWS have no more morals than anyone else, but seem to believe that their hypocracy and double standards go unnoticed...God must be laffin at em

LESSON 3...Direct your feelings of revenge into those of pity and humor, he will reap what he has sown, and after a taste of a "wordly" fiance, when the reality of what he has done sets in and he is stuck with his sister, Im sure regret will set in. By that time believe me, you will be where I am now, thanking God he left you and allowed you a "life"

We may be "of this world" but they sure as heck seem to have appeared from Mars

I would say good luck but believe me, your luck began the day he cheated!!!

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just curious..when is the jehovahs memorial assembly..or has it been lol

by luffy in

luffy

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divorce

by luffy in

how would somebody argue the jw doctrine that a divorced person cannot remarry a jw unless "scripturally" divorced..ive looked through the bible scriptures on this and find it hard to argue the jw interpretation although i would be really grateful for any arguments against the jw interpretation on this that could hold water!!

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luffy

dear clc417

your situation is similar to mine and I symathise with you..although one may come across as a soft numb skull I am sure you find as I do that it is not as simple as walking away when you are truly in love, even though thats what your head will tell you to do.

I do not for one minute feel or believe that I am am seen as revolting by my witness boyfriend..that he might be expected to believe that, is a different story..but from endless looking into and discussion on the witnesses, and in speaking to my boyfriend, I have become very much aware that a large part of this religion is based on the "expected" witness persona..and on the occasions this guard is let down the true person and his feelings emerge.

I have decided that whatever the outcome of my relationship, one thing that will remain is a friendship..having said that I am not prepared to give up on him. To walk away would be admitting defeat, and giving in if you like to the watchtowers "ideals" the fact that he continues to tell me he loves me and that I am his soulmate and that we will marry, is a small victory to me and although I have no intentions of converting, will leave it up to him to realise his conscience with Jehovah, God, or whoever cannot be played with the same dice as the manmade rules and interpretations of the Watchtower.There is no contract as far as I have seen between the Watchtower assosciation and God.

As I said..my way of dealing with it is to be the better person, to prove that my intentions when I divorced were not trivial..I did not seek a divorce to go out and "play the field" I divorced after 14 years of misery and because I fell in love, for that reason and for my own conscience I am not prepared to walk away..I am sure God would approve rather, of one who stayed out of love, than of one who seeks favours by running under a manmade security blanket!!!

good luck!!

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divorce

by luffy in

how would somebody argue the jw doctrine that a divorced person cannot remarry a jw unless "scripturally" divorced..ive looked through the bible scriptures on this and find it hard to argue the jw interpretation although i would be really grateful for any arguments against the jw interpretation on this that could hold water!!

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luffy

geeez...typos even!!!!..see what even talking about this does to my brain lolol

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divorce

by luffy in

how would somebody argue the jw doctrine that a divorced person cannot remarry a jw unless "scripturally" divorced..ive looked through the bible scriptures on this and find it hard to argue the jw interpretation although i would be really grateful for any arguments against the jw interpretation on this that could hold water!!

!.

luffy

sry for the tyops!!!..shoulda read answers to questions!!!....and "look" not "loo!!!"

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divorce

by luffy in

how would somebody argue the jw doctrine that a divorced person cannot remarry a jw unless "scripturally" divorced..ive looked through the bible scriptures on this and find it hard to argue the jw interpretation although i would be really grateful for any arguments against the jw interpretation on this that could hold water!!

!.

luffy

I posted my story here a while back and I guess at this point am just looking for questions to answers I have and trying to come to terms with what is about to be one of the most difficult things I have ever had to do..through reading through postings on this site and many stories I have come to realise that through different circumstances many like myself have been hurt either directly or indirectly by this cult/religion or whatever you may want to call it..Gary..I read your story and was deeply moved..you have my admiration and if it brings you any vindication it is largely due to your story that I have decided that I would rather give up the love of my life to the Watchtower than become another feather in their sick cap.

I was unhappily married and met a person who over two years I fell in love with deeply, he gave me the strength I needed to end my marriage and told me we could not continue our relationship unless I divorced and paved the way for us to marry. during my divorce proceedings this man announced that he had met a jw in a store and had i heard of them. I told him I had and if he persued it I was gone. He told me he was just interested in learning and I stupidly believed him even though I was aware of the whole brainwashing recruitment set up applied by jws. To cut a long story short, the same week my divorce became final he announced he was getting baptised which he has since done. He began by telling me he would marry me anyway, that it was his conscience with jehovah that was important and not the Watchtower rules..that soon changed when he announced the scriptures said he could only marry in the lord..so I would have to convert..and changed further when I pointed out that according to the jws it was not proven that i was scripturally divorced. I was so bessoted by him that i was prepared to loo into converting..that was until i realised he would not be "allowed" to marry me anyway.

I told him I would have a bible study after christmas and then either convert or leave and allow him to find his "sister perfection"..I am now at the point where i feel i have no need for a bible study as there is nothing on this planet that will justify their crazy doctrines as far as im concerned, but faced with the prospect of having to allow him to move on, and in the process break my heart, i feel i need to know and try to understand as much of this jw carry on as i can in order to be able to move on.

I hope you guys can now understand where im coming from..im not crazy or stupid, just another victim of this twisted, manipulating organisation.

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divorce

by luffy in

how would somebody argue the jw doctrine that a divorced person cannot remarry a jw unless "scripturally" divorced..ive looked through the bible scriptures on this and find it hard to argue the jw interpretation although i would be really grateful for any arguments against the jw interpretation on this that could hold water!!

!.

luffy

How would somebody argue the jw doctrine that a divorced person cannot remarry a jw unless "scripturally" divorced..ive looked through the Bible scriptures on this and find it hard to argue the jw interpretation although I would be really grateful for any arguments against the jw interpretation on this that could hold water!!!

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where does their money come from??

by luffy in

ive read a number of times about the millions the watchtower are raking in tax free..since ive been led to believe that people are not charged for their magazines could somebody clarify this and explain where all this money comes from?

luffy

excuse my ignorance but what is the R&F?

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where does their money come from??

by luffy in

ive read a number of times about the millions the watchtower are raking in tax free..since ive been led to believe that people are not charged for their magazines could somebody clarify this and explain where all this money comes from?

luffy

Ive read a number of times about the millions the Watchtower are raking in tax free..since ive been led to believe that people are not charged for their magazines could somebody clarify this and explain where all this money comes from?

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When is it ok to give gifts?

by Hoping4Change in

so jw's don't "celebrate" christmas.

what exactly does it mean to "celebrate christmas"?

also, what are the dates (let's say between thanksgiving and new years) which jw's are forbidden to give/exchange gifts?

luffy

my witness boyfriends son who is not a witness himself, gave my b/f a digital camera a couple of days before christmas and that was fine with him lol..christmas day comes along and my b/f is invited to another witness household to eat hams stuffing scallop potatoes and all the goodies(noooo turkey!!!!) and to play games...but beware..they arent celebrating lolol..funny bunch!