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looseend
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Looking for an old watchtower article need some help
by looseend in"millions now living will never die.
i am not looking for the book, just the article.
if anybody can help me find this i would appriciate it.
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looseend
Prove God without the bible, too. Jesus supposedly did it and everyone who lived before him. That shouldn't be hard for you.
By the way you are so incredibly arrogant, it makes me glad that I don't have that mentality anymore and reasures me of my beliefs. I figured I should let you know what type of stumbling block you are to others.
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looseend
Vinny,
I read your post where you explained you belief in god. You started out good but then fell off at the end. You mentioned that you were respectful of others beliefs then insulted their points of view in a very conceded manner. Anyway I am going to take a shot at your post since I am "DEAD IN THE WATER" right, nothing to lose.
The existence of Jesus is not something I am going to argue. I wasn't around then, but I do tend to believe that he at least lived. The lives of the apostles that were changed is not being argued. I am sure if they decided to write something about it, it may have been how they felt. Keep in mind that people can believe a lot of things when moved by faith. Faith heelers have very faithfull followers that swear by their "miracles". David Koresh still has faithful followers.
As far as prophecies being fulfilled most are just partly fulfilled, not to mention adapted from earlier beliefs of the same prophecies. My biggest complaint with the prophecies is that there is nothing new in them. There has always been famine, war, natural disaster, and suffering. If anything people are more humane now then in the past.
Just as you said that there was nobody there to see the beginning of the universe, there was nobody around now from Jesus' day to give eye witness to any event. So any miracles there were claimed in the bible, which is known for parables, is technically hear say from a group of men with the same beliefs from the same time period. The fact that the bible is still around doesn't give any clout to the matter, there are many of other scrolls that are from the same time period that aren't as highly regarded. I assume that is because the Romans, which lets face, allowed Christianity to exist.
You say that the bible says that god had no beginning. I assume if you can put your faith and life on one book you would have to believe that.
Although you mentioned that everything has a beginning, including the corvette, God is exempt from the very rule he presumably created. Time is not even really an argument. You went into some length about time but obviously if he is exempt from his own rules there isn't an argument. So if believing in a being that had no beginning, no end, and doesn't even live in the universe he created, that must mean that there must be some other space or place other then the universe. I guess it is logical to define something that defies all human logic. You weren't kidding faith is needed.
As far as everything being organized earthquakes and natural disasters are a necessity of the earth, they will continue to happen. Plates will continue to move and weather systems won't change. Stars blow up, planets collide, space is chaotic. The earth has been hit many times. The dinosaurs all died around the same time for that reason. That is proven look it up, in some reference that isn't religiously based. Oh and the sun is burning, it's made of hydrogen (gas) it will burn out, that's what happens when gas is on fire. Maybe god has to bust out that Exxon card to make that trip to everlasting.
I am running out of time, but you haven't answered all the questions. All you have done is quote the bible excluded all religious possibilities and demand that you must be right with absolutely no possibility of being wrong. At least science allows for improvement and error.
Oh by the way I do believe it was religion that has led to more bloodshed on earth then anything else in the history of mankind. I am glad "GOD" has it under control. I don't know about you but I wouldn't let anything happen to my children if I had an option to stop it.
I am glad that supposedly miracles were allowed in "bible days", but it isn't important to prove miraculous event other miraculous event, we have a book.
I can't prove that god doesn't exist but let's face it either can you. You can believe it but can't prove it. You can see the corvette there is no need to prove it. The fact that god still has to be proven in the first place, says that there is a possibility; if not probability that god doesn't exist.
I have one more request: prove to me that all the other gods that people have worshiped don't exist. Let's see if you can prove that any other god DOESN'T exist.
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looseend
Vinny,
It is people like you that make being an Atheist so much easier. Since you answer everything, answer a couple questions for me.
What makes your god better than other?
Someone already asked, but where did God come from?
What you or mankind the egocentric right to clam that we are more important than anything else in the universe?
Now some better questions.
What evidence is there that the bible that you base your life on is actually inspired by god?
Before you answer that keep in mind that, "Because is says so in the bible", or qouting a scripture won't be acceptable. If I wrote a book and said that is was inspired by god, I would have know more credibility thatn a psychic.
Explain the undeniable proof of evolution, without quoting a scientist with a religious background like, Behe or Wells.
Explain why your BELIEF should be taken as truth. Proving something takes more than observation and egotistical arrogance, a snide grin, and a shake of the head at someone who doesn't agree with you.
Explain to all te other people in the world like Buddhists, Muslims or even other Christians why you are right about god and they are wrong. Try to explain why you are so gifted and priviledged to hold the direct phone line to god, which by the way has abondoned all other religions and people unless they believe what you believe.
What would you say to a child in Darfur whose mother was just raped and killed? Try running it by them them how Jesus loves them, how do you think they will take it?
If you want more specifics on the evolution questions just ask. We can go back and forth on it. I don't mind.
But don't look down your nose at someone and assume they are fools because they disagree with you. That is a really "religious" attitude and not very becoming. At least pretend to be somewhat open minded and objective.
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Looking for an old watchtower article need some help
by looseend in"millions now living will never die.
i am not looking for the book, just the article.
if anybody can help me find this i would appriciate it.
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"Millions now living will never die." 1980's or something like that. I am not looking for the book, just the article. If anybody can help me find this I would appriciate it.
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Aviator pictures and usernames- Where and why did you choose yours?
by winnie injust curious.
are some of them a personal photo?
ones that are not, why did you choose them?.
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looseend
"Millions now living will never die." 1980's or something like that. I am not looking for the book, just the article. If anybody can help me find this I would appriciate it.
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Got my invitation to the memorial today
by fairchild inyep i got invited to the memorial and i'm not sure what to do.. last year they didn't even bother inviting me but the year before i went although i brought my own bread and ate it during the memorial.. this year i really don't know what to do but i'm leaning towards going.
anyone else?.
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looseend
I haven't went for the last couple years. An elder in the local hall asked me if i was going last year. I said it would be disrespectful since i don't believe in God. The elder said that it wouldn't be. I still don't know how that is. Maybe, since i am white i can go to a black panther party too.
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They're baaaack! J.W. urban legends
by NikL ingot a e mail today full of urban legends j.w.
style.
the heading is "jehovah knows what's going on".
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looseend
I remember a lot of those stories. I am sure that everyone of us have. Although if you notice it is never an actual first hand account it's always a freiend of a friend of a friend. It is just like all the "Demon" experiences we have all heard. None of these things ever happened to me or even someone I could trust first hand. It was always some excentric brother or sister making shit up.
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The Evolution Revolution (research paper for school)
by looseend ini was wondering if anyone else read this article in newsweek?
i am doing a reasearch paper for school on evolution.
i was wondering if i could get some help.
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looseend
Clam, there isn't an age group and the guy you mentioned i think was Darwin's cousin or something like that
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The Evolution Revolution (research paper for school)
by looseend ini was wondering if anyone else read this article in newsweek?
i am doing a reasearch paper for school on evolution.
i was wondering if i could get some help.
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looseend
Come on People give me some ideas that would give me an interesting paper to write. I need some help. I am interested in this subject, so i can deal with the boring stuff. I need to have an interesting paper for the average reader. Give me some questions or something...Thanks