I agree with robert. At first I just decided not to go anymore, but I was still somewhat in favor of the JWs, I was raised in it, it takes time. After a while though don't be suprised if you aren't so favorable. I mean the people that are still active that I hang out with from time to time, including family, all know that I am an athiest. In my experience though, they don't care. Even an elders in my old hall know that I smoke, drink and live my my girlfriend, but at this point I guess they just would rather ignore it.
looseend
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Need some of your help
by superman ini'm currently still attending meetings and am "considered" to still be in good standing.
i've cut back on how much i go, because to be honest i really don't believe any of it anymore.
some of it i do still believe is true and legitimate, but most of it i feel is bs.
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Need some of your help
by superman ini'm currently still attending meetings and am "considered" to still be in good standing.
i've cut back on how much i go, because to be honest i really don't believe any of it anymore.
some of it i do still believe is true and legitimate, but most of it i feel is bs.
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looseend
Yeah, I just stopped going. I was DF'd then reinstated, for my dad mainly. After that I just stopped going. The elders did hear about some of the stuff I was doing which probably would have gotten me DFd again, I just lied. I felt at that point it wasn't for me so why did I have to answer to them. Now, it is obvious to other that are still active, that still know me, that I should have been DFd, but the truth of the matter is they are glad I am not so they don't have to treat me that way. The elders asked me after I stopped why I did RIGHT after I got reinstated. I told them it wasn't really for me at the time. They had nothing to DF me for so they didn't. that was seven years ago.
It might not work that way for you but the remaining family member that are still active continue to treat me fine, my brother on the other hand is DFd and although my parents do not treat him any different others do, and it is completely BS. It doesn't hurt the fact that only two members in my immediate family are still in.
Keep in mind though if you don't do something it will just continue to bother you. Nobody wants to live a lie or feel forced to do something.
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Any EXJW Catholic's?
by Wordly Andre inif so hello!
and how many of you are doing the christmas novena?
wife and i started ours on dec 16th.
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looseend
Awww and just when I was beggining to like you. Are you still feeling unfulfilled?
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Any EXJW Catholic's?
by Wordly Andre inif so hello!
and how many of you are doing the christmas novena?
wife and i started ours on dec 16th.
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looseend
I don't know which is worse catholic or JW. I mean really. If you can find things wrong with JWs you should most certainly be able to find things wrong with the catholic faith as well.
Here it is. If god's word existed it would not be that difficult to find. It says that in the bible.
Get off the sea-saw.
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looseend
Lawrence... haha nice.
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looseend
My guess is he drank jager which he made from deer's blood... I can not find any reason that this wouldn't be true... oh am I supposed to think... in that case ...it never happened. If that doesn't make sense then I guess it did happen in that case it had to have been pabst.
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So is it Evolution or Creation
by Punk inhttp://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5521410965822202656 take a look
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looseend
Superfine thanks for covering the absurd argument about theory of fact. As for brother apostate i posted the same thing one the other thread I am posting here, please stop recommending that video.
In regards to the video Brother Apostate is pedaling, he posted it on one of my treads as well:
BA, I watched the entire video. I can see how someone could believe that information. I personally think it is a shame that videos like this are out there. Like many others like it, the video points out things that are wrong with science without explaining how they can still come to the theories they do. This video will do wonders for people who are interested in science and still want to believe in creation, the only problem is it will keep them ignorant to the actual scientific methodology used today.
The other problem is making statements about the flood and expecting it to be considered in science is impossible. First there is not any evidence of a flood and it has been looked for, you can’t say… "Suppose the flood happened how would this change things." Not to mention geological strata is always considered when dating fossils.
For a very rudimentary example, the Grand Canyon, how long do you think that took to be carved out? If you say god did it I assume it could have been done instantly, but if you think water did it, which it more than likely did, it would have taken a very long time. If we went by the biblical timeline, each decade the canyon would get drastically deeper.
When you do research and read about the scientists that are doing it. More often than not, they have formal religious training or a very Christian themselves and are trying to find ways to disprove science, without actually proving there theories. We were always told if you see something in front of you someone must have made it, usually we can still figure out how it was made as well. These religious scientists to prove there side, not just point out some already realized issues in the majority of the scientific world.
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So is it Evolution or Creation
by Punk inhttp://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5521410965822202656 take a look
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looseend
Superfine thanks for covering the absurd argument about theory of fact. As for brother apostate i posted the same thing one the other thread I am posting here, please stop recommending that video.
In regards to the video Brother Apostate is pedaling, he posted it on one of my treads as well:
BA, I watched the entire video. I can see how someone could believe that information. I personally think it is a shame that videos like this are out there. Like many others like it, the video points out things that are wrong with science without explaining how they can still come to the theories they do. This video will do wonders for people who are interested in science and still want to believe in creation, the only problem is it will keep them ignorant to the actual scientific methodology used today.
The other problem is making statements about the flood and expecting it to be considered in science is impossible. First there is not any evidence of a flood and it has been looked for, you can’t say… "Suppose the flood happened how would this change things." Not to mention geological strata is always considered when dating fossils.
For a very rudimentary example, the Grand Canyon, how long do you think that took to be carved out? If you say god did it I assume it could have been done instantly, but if you think water did it, which it more than likely did, it would have taken a very long time. If we went by the biblical timeline, each decade the canyon would get drastically deeper.
When you do research and read about the scientists that are doing it. More often than not, they have formal religious training or a very Christian themselves and are trying to find ways to disprove science, without actually proving there theories. We were always told if you see something in front of you someone must have made it, usually we can still figure out how it was made as well. These religious scientists to prove there side, not just point out some already realized issues in the majority of the scientific world.
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The Evolution Revolution (research paper for school)
by looseend ini was wondering if anyone else read this article in newsweek?
i am doing a reasearch paper for school on evolution.
i was wondering if i could get some help.
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looseend
BA, I watched the entire video. I can see how someone could believe that information. I personally think it is a shame that videos like this are out there. Like many others like it, the video points out things that are wrong with science without explaining how they can still come to the theories they do. This video will do wonders for people who are interested in science and still want to believe in creation, the only problem is it will keep them ignorant to the actual scientific methodology used today.
The other problem is making statements about the flood and expecting it to be considered in science is impossible. First there is not any evidence of a flood and it has been looked for, you can’t say… "Suppose the flood happened how would this change things." Not to mention geological strata is always considered when dating fossils.
For a very rudimentary example, the Grand Canyon, how long do you think that took to be carved out? If you say god did it I assume it could have been done instantly, but if you think water did it, which it more than likely did, it would have taken a very long time. If we went by the biblical timeline, each decade the canyon would get drastically deeper.
When you do research and read about the scientists that are doing it. More often than not, they have formal religious training or a very Christian themselves and are trying to find ways to disprove science, without actually proving there theories. We were always told if you see something in front of you someone must have made it, usually we can still figure out how it was made as well. These religious scientists to prove there side, not just point out some already realized issues in the majority of the scientific world.
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The Evolution Revolution (research paper for school)
by looseend ini was wondering if anyone else read this article in newsweek?
i am doing a reasearch paper for school on evolution.
i was wondering if i could get some help.
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looseend
I know it was a while ago, but this was the paper I finally submitted. Like I said I just haven't been on here for a while.