Posts by StillGroggy

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What's Your First Thought To The Name/Word "Jehovah"?

by minimus in

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when you see the word or hear it----what do you think of??

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Need some clarification on something my mom said

by Gringa in

i have been out a long, long time.

3 rd generation.

my younger brother died a few months ago, he was 40 years old and had left the "truth" as a teenager.

StillGroggy

It's a really weird, morbid doctrine, but is it really so weird coming from the witnesses? They think that everyone besides them is going to be brutally murdered by God.

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I never realised this before....

by Stezza in

hi people

i have not been here for a while, i used to be addicted but work got in the way, although i check back now and then.

anyway i was reading about the girl in england who died as she refused a blood transfusion.

Stezza,

The religion is so awful I don't even consider it a religion anymore. It's a destructive cult. I wonder exactly how many families lie destroyed from shunning and how many people have died because of blood?

Good luck getting your mother to think for herself.

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Questions From Readers: Hunting/Fishing

by inkling in

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i guess this means you can maim and kill animals all you want, just so long as you don't enjoy it too much.. sorta like being a isrealite warrior who makes a living killing people but yet is commanded to "hate violence".

[inkling].

StillGroggy

I hope the person who wrote that pile of horsecrap gets cancer

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FACEBOOK - How can you protect yourself from the elders?

by jwfacts in

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i am a member of facebook and have been able to locate a few long lost friends, including some are exjws.. i have also linked up with some active and inactive jws on facebook that i still keep in touch with.

however, this means that other jws are able to see who i associate with.

this has got already one person in trouble.

StillGroggy

I would say that your active JW friends are in danger of being discovered. If they have other active JW friends on their list, they could easily be sold out to the elders, especially if they decide to end their facebook account for the furtherance of the lord or something like that, they could get your friend's canned.

Do what I do, have a JW account and an ex-JW account.

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I miss this place

by StillGroggy in

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hey all, i haven't been around in a long while.

i miss this place.

i'll never forget all the kind words and advice people have given me here (no matter how tough).

StillGroggy

Admins, So sorry about that F Bomb. Please forgive :)

BetterDaze, When I first came on this board, I was still a JW in my mind. This board, and the awesome supportive attitude of everyone here was a big part of my awakening. I'll never forget that. The support system of Ex-JWs and Non-JWs I've built aside from this board is all people I'd lost contact with because of the Cult, so I felt it necessary to undo some of the damage I'd done, plus I missed them.

AuldSoul, I've come a long way. Still haven't come out of the apostate closet, but I'm getting there. Thanks for thinking about me.

Jgnat & Blondie, so funny that you mention a cruise. I'm planning on talking with my wife after we get back from our cruise in November. I wasn't doing this for the reason you mention, just because I didn't wan't to have to cancel the cruise (its with a jw couple) However, what you mentioned reminds me of how Steve Hassan got out of the Moonies when he landed in the hospital. Also, I have noticed that my wife is more normal and less judgemental after missing even 1 Meeting. Being gone for two weeks might help. Great advice.

Unfortunately, I had developed a defeatist attitude when it came to my situation, but reading Steve Hassan's book is helping me feel empowered and less afraid, and more positive about how things may go with my wife if I can manage to be smart about it.

We'll see,

- SG

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I miss this place

by StillGroggy in

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hey all, i haven't been around in a long while.

i miss this place.

i'll never forget all the kind words and advice people have given me here (no matter how tough).

StillGroggy

oh yeah!! I remember the clone Fxxx gag. Hahahaha! Yeah, good times.

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I miss this place

by StillGroggy in

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hey all, i haven't been around in a long while.

i miss this place.

i'll never forget all the kind words and advice people have given me here (no matter how tough).

StillGroggy

Hey all, I haven't been around in a long while. I miss this place. I'll never forget all the kind words and advice people have given me here (no matter how tough).

Just as a quick update. I'm still in, but I've given myself a deadline of the end of the year to talk to my wife about how I feel about the WT. I'm not joking. I mean business. It's happening.

I've connected with allot of old friends who've left the org and have been getting a lot of support from them, also old friends that aren't JWs. I've also been reading "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Steve Hassan.

My apologies to anyone who's messaged me at that old myspace. I've abandoned it. If you want my new one, PM me!

- SG

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New Light Coming?

by dontomas in

hi - i have jw friends (really!

) and have gone to kh for some talks and study every couple of weeks.

things like the new watchtower policy, selling buildings (i am from nyc and know the heights well - that will make a boatload of money), the sex abuse settlements, drop in membership and donations, and some of the changes i have seen in the magazine (the annointed qfr, for example).

StillGroggy

WTwizard, I think that ALL of what you're saying won't happen, but IT COULD! And that's whats scariest, at some point there's going to be a showdown. My wife already kind of knows that I'm not down with the Kool-Aid since I won't budge on certain things. It could get ugly.

Amen, come lord Satan!

- SG

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"They don't even know what they believe!" -- JW

by AlmostAtheist in

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a jw once said (more than once, probably) in regards to members of other faiths, "they don't even know what they believe!

" i know that's a legitimate quote from a real jw because i'm the one that said it.

i often found that the people i met in field service would claim to be a catholic or a methodist or whatever, but wouldn't have a clue about the beliefs of their church.

StillGroggy

AlmostAtheist,

I've been thinking about this sort of thing alot lately. I agree with you that JWs are an arrogant bunch, although i partially believe some of what the wanderer says about it.

I DO think that the environment created by the WTs teachings IS one of arrogance, despite the fact that they say it is out of love. How many times do you hear JWs refer to non-JWs as "Some Worldy guy" They basically use it as a racial slur! I've always felt that JWs regard non-JWs as a lower class of human being.

Look in the revelation book, in the upcoming weeks there is a picture of an angel killing wicked "worldly" people. The worldy people are portrayed as a bunch of violent animals. My wife won't share a cup with the "worldly" people at work because she sees them as a promiscuous, diseased bunch!

Although many JWs claim they have "empathy" for worldly people, when was the last time most of them gave any money to a charity other than the WT? From what I've seen, MOST DONT.

However, There are some people in the JWs who ABSOLUTELY LOVE looking down on non-JWs. They gain a self-satisfaction, it makes them feel like they are part of an elite. Many elders and pioneers take on this persona. I believe this has to do with their personality, and if they belonged to any other cult, they would be the SAME WAY.

- SG