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11 More Documents--Kingdom Hall Trust and Other Stuff!

by Atlantis in

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11 more documents, a bunch of stuff!.

2020--sample accounts sheet—congregation bank version.

kingdom hall trust documents.

Earnest

Delegated Authority pursuant to clauses 31-35 of the Articles of Association of The Kingdom Hall Trust

Child Safeguarding
12. The Trustees delegate to the Body of Elders the function of taking reasonable steps to safeguard child beneficiaries of the relevant Congregation.
13. In exercising this function, the Body of Elders shall adhere strictly to Jehovah’s Witnesses Scripturally Based Position on Child Protection, as may be from time to time revised, updated or replaced, as well as any relevant direction or guidance from the Britain Branch Office of Jehovah’s Witnesses (Branch Office).
14. The Body of Elders of the relevant Congregation will provide the Trustees with reports on allegations of child abuse which occur at a Kingdom Hall.
15. In all relevant circumstances, the Trustees will report serious incidents to the relevant charity regulator and/or statutory agencies.

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2019 New World Translation Matthew-Acts--PDF!

by Atlantis in

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2019 new world translation matthew-acts.

click the first dark grey bible.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/ petra!

Earnest

truth_b_known : I recently read the entire New Testament in the NIV translation. Very eye opening in regards to what the Bible says versus the Watchtower's version of the Bible.

Keep in mind that the 2011 Preface to the NIV explains its principles of translation thus:

The first concern of the translators has continued to be the accuracy of the translation and its faithfulness to the intended meaning of the biblical writers. This has moved the translators to go beyond a formal word-for-word rendering of the original texts.

As the translators decide what the intended meaning of the biblical writers is, this translation is more often an interpretation without being bound by the wording of the original texts.

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2019 New World Translation Matthew-Acts--PDF!

by Atlantis in

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2019 new world translation matthew-acts.

click the first dark grey bible.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/ petra!

Earnest

slimboyfat : Thanks, it looks excellent. I wish I could get my hands on a hard copy.

At the 2019 Annual Meeting:

Brother Samuel Herd highlighted the benefits of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition) that can be accessed online. He then released the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition) from the books of Matthew through Acts in print form. Publishers may request a copy through their local congregation.

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Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

by Number 6 in

there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

Earnest

Vindication, Book I, 1931, pp.338, 339 states:

There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1914, 1918 and 1925 [and 1975], which disappointment lasted for a time. Later the faithful learned that these dates were definitely fixed in the Scriptures; and they also learned to quit fixing dates for the future and predicting what would come to pass on a certain date, but to rely (and they do rely) upon the Word of God as to the events that must come to pass.

So, no more predicted dates. Just events.

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Did they use to applaud after reinstatement after being Disfellowshipped, but then it stopped?

by ThomasCovenant in

i don't remember disfellowshippings happening very often and announcements about being re instated but i think i remember that we used to clap hands if someone came back after being disfellowshipped.

but then i think clapping wasn't allowed.

am i correct in my recollections?.

Earnest

In the Kingdom Ministry of February, 2000 this question was discussed. It quoted The Watchtower of October 1, 1998, p.17 which said :

“We must remember, however, that most in the congregation are not aware of the particular circumstances that led to a person’s expulsion or to his reinstatement. In addition, there may be some who have been personally affected or hurt—perhaps even on a long-term basis—by the wrongdoing of the repentant one. Being sensitive to such matters, therefore, when an announcement of reinstatement is made, we would understandably withhold expressions of welcome until such can be made on a personal basis.”

The conclusion was that applause at the time of reinstatement would not be appropriate.

You may also be interested that on the Theocratic Ministry School and Service Meeting (and, presumably, their current counterparts) there are no rules forbidding applause if it is done spontaneously, but we normally do not applaud each presentation.

This was clarified in the Kingdom Ministry of April, 1972 and confirmed in the Kingdom Ministry of May, 2008.

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Trevor Pope and Jesse Hemery

by BereanThinker7 in

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does anybody know anything about trevor pope?

he compiled some ideas from jesse hemery and wrote a book on end times called "a bible study investigation into our relationship to god and into the time of the end" .

its interesting so far and its already hard enough to even find any writings about hemery or info on his goshen fellowship.

Earnest

In a plug for the book in 2013 the publishers say this about Trevor Pope :

Trevor Pope the editor of this Bible study investigation has been an independent free Bible student for some seventy years. His current beliefs on the return of Jesus Christ were formed in studies and discussions in the 1950s with Jesse Hemery, one of the most respected Bible students of his generation. Hemery printed some of his thoughts privately, but they were never professionally published. Here they are commended to all Christians interested in the Lord’s return for they offer a broader understanding of the subject than is normally available.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses Reject Plasma Injections for COVID-19

by Rattigan350 in

jehovah’s witnesses reject plasma injections for covid-19.

https://www.newsintervention.com/jehovahs-witnesses-reject-plasma-injections-covid-19/.

the jehovah’s witnesses have issues with modern medical information because this is seen as against the tenets of the religious faith.

Earnest

Thanks, John Redwood. I have read your article in JW Survey and find it convincing. It makes more sense to me that this directive comes via a Circuit Overseer rather than directly from the Watchtower Society. It is not that it is contrary to Society policy but it is not the way I am accustomed to the Watchtower Society expressing themselves.

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What did Russell and the Bible students say about racism?

by Fadeaway1962 in

featured on jworg , what does the bible say about racism?

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and a video , johny and gideon: once enemies, now brothers , two men from south africa.. what did russell and rutherford have to say about racism in the congregations ?.

Earnest

The situation in South Africa ever since the Group Areas Act of 1950 was that racial groups were restricted to different residential areas. The result was that if a Kingdom Hall or Assembly was in a white area the only people living in that area would be white. Likewise, in a black area the only people living there would be black. The effect of the Group Areas Act was that the congregations were not mixed. There was an exception to this when an employee (usually a maid or gardener) lived on the property of their employer, in which case they attended the congregation in that area.

Ever since the Group Areas Act was abolished in 1991 the congregations were mixed. Although I would say that there have been Witnesses who were racist due to their background, as a group they have never practiced apartheid in South Africa.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses Reject Plasma Injections for COVID-19

by Rattigan350 in

jehovah’s witnesses reject plasma injections for covid-19.

https://www.newsintervention.com/jehovahs-witnesses-reject-plasma-injections-covid-19/.

the jehovah’s witnesses have issues with modern medical information because this is seen as against the tenets of the religious faith.

Earnest

The article suggests that the following in italics is a Watchtower directive:

The Blood Issue: There’s talk about the FDA allowing doctors to treat critically ill COVID-19 patients with “convalescent plasma therapy.” It would be wise to advise the publishers that it’s understood that this is giving the patient the whole plasma of the person who has developed the antibodies which would be unacceptable for Jehovah’s Witnesses.
However if the antibodies were extracted from the plasma (fractions/immunoglobulins) and then given to the patient, it would be a conscience matter for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Some doctors may view plasma as a fraction. Therefore the publisher may need to explain their personal decision not to accept any of the blood’s four main components, one of them being plasma.

I doubt it.

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Will Covid 19 deaths exceed 'flu deaths in the U.K.?

by BoogerMan in

i hope not.

thankfully, c19 appears to be waning as the summer comes in.. 2017/18 'flu deaths: england & wales = 50,100, scotland - 23,137, & n.i.

- 1500. total = 74,637.

Earnest

The first reported deaths in 2020 for England and Wales by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate was in the week ending 13 March 2020 in which there were 5 deaths. The most recent report by the ONS is for the week ending 22 May 2020. For purposes of comparison the figures below only cover England and Wales for the same period of eleven weeks in the years 2018, 2019 and 2020.

In 2018 there were 17,524 deaths from respiratory diseases including influenza. This was 14.9% of all deaths in the same period.

In 2019 there were 15,334 deaths from respiratory diseases including influenza. This was 13.8% of all deaths in the same period.

In 2020 there were 16,001 deaths from respiratory diseases including influenza but excluding COVID-19. This was 9.4% of all deaths in the same period.

In the same period there were 43,694 deaths in which COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate. This was 25.8% of all deaths in the same period.

For purposes of comparison, there were 56,194 more deaths from all causes in 2020 than the average number of deaths over the same period in the previous five years. This means that in 2020 there has been an increase of 49.6% over the average number of deaths

All figures were obtained from the ONS website here.