Reading through the article by aqwsed12345, it seems he supports the view that John 1:1c ("the Word was God/a god") should be understood qualitatively. In other words, that theos refers to "godness", what the Logos was, not who the Logos was. If that is the case, the question arises whether the translation "the Word was God" conveys that thought to most English readers, as in English it makes no distinction between the God with whom the Word was and the God that the Word was. In Greek the distinction is clear, in English it is not. The NWT is one of the few English translations which accurately reflects that distinction.
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How did JWs arrive at a clearer understanding of what the Bible teaches than other Christian denominations?
by slimboyfat infor jws who believe that jehovah had a hand in reviving the truth in the nineteenth century this is enough explanation for how jws managed to achieve a closer approximation to early christian beliefs and practices than other groups.
but is there an explanation for this phenomenon that doesn’t rely on supernatural intervention?
new testament scholar james dunn explains the difficulty of interpreting the biblical texts in this way:.
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slimboyfat : Only joined Bethel in 2020? I wonder what he was he doing before that.
He (Rumph) and his wife graduated from the 132nd class of Gilead in 2012.
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Brother Jedele began his full-time service in 1989 and Bethel service in 1990. Brother Rumph began his full-time service in 1995 and Bethel service in 2020. Both brothers served as helpers to the Service Committee of the Governing Body, Jody Jedele since March 8, 2023.- Breaking News.
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WTS 2024 Annual Business Meeting ...
by careful in... is just three weeks from this saturday.
the org has been tight-lipped, really, successfully secret about advance info on these in recent years,.
now that these relatively recent changes on dress and grooming, reporting fs time, judicial matters, etc.
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Rattigan350, the book Revelation - Its Grand Climax at Hand identifies 1919 as the year Jesus recognised "the small band of genuine anointed Christians as his 'faithful and discrete slave'" (p.63) as well as the year when the male child was born to the woman of Revelation 12 (p.183).
Although there was a convention in September 1919 at Cedar Point, Ohio, the convention with the theme "Advertise the King and Kingdom" was in 1922.
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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.
shame is an ancient form of control.
shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.
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Shepherd The Flock of God, 2024, Chapter 13, section 3 :
Such abhorrent forms of pornography include homosexuality (sex between those of the same gender), group sex, bestiality, sadistic torture, bondage, gang rape, the brutalizing of women, or child pornography.
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Ten reasons Jehovah’s Witnesses have the true religion (plus a bonus one)
by slimboyfat inthinking back when i was a true believer these are probably the top ten reasons why i believed jws are the true religion.
1. they show love among themselves by not going to war.
not killing your fellow believers in any circumstances, including war, would seem to be a very basic requirement for true christianity.
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Their being no part of the world which included refusing to support either the government military or the "freedom fighters" in apartheid South Africa, refusing to salute the flag or sing either the national anthem or "freedom songs". It was a faith that lived what they preached in a polarised country in which the churches were equally polarised.
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WHEN WILL THE ANOINTED BE TAKEN TO HEAVEN
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/sptboe8_kuc?si=cnb837qqdlm1glx0.
this is a question that has preoccupied the minds of the governing body " when will the last anointed be taken up to heaven?
" when did this nonsense begin ?
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slimboyfat : ... that would tend to suggest 1935 no longer has any bearing on the timing of the first resurrection either.
No, I don't think so. The argument is that it was in 1935 that the identification of the great crowd referred to in Revelation 7 occurred. As that identification was given by one of the 24 elders (who represent the 144,000), it is clear that some of the 144,000 must have been resurrected by that time. So the start of the first resurrection could not be after 1935.
While it is true that 1935 has been dropped as a significant date related to when the selection of the anointed ends, the fact remains that it was then that the great crowd were identified.
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WHEN WILL THE ANOINTED BE TAKEN TO HEAVEN
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/sptboe8_kuc?si=cnb837qqdlm1glx0.
this is a question that has preoccupied the minds of the governing body " when will the last anointed be taken up to heaven?
" when did this nonsense begin ?
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Vanderhoven7 : 1918: This year is critical to current Watch Tower eschatology.
No longer. It is simply an interesting possibility. The Watchtower of January 1, 2007 discussed the first resurrection and says :
Jesus Christ was anointed as the future King of God’s Kingdom in the fall of 29 C.E. Three and a half years later, in the spring of 33 C.E., he was resurrected as a mighty spirit person. Could it, then, be reasoned that since Jesus was enthroned in the fall of 1914, the resurrection of his faithful anointed followers began three and a half years later, in the spring of 1918? That is an interesting possibility. Although this cannot be directly confirmed in the Bible, it is not out of harmony with other scriptures that indicate that the first resurrection got under way soon after Christ’s presence began.
The same Watchtower is slightly more positive that the first resurrection started between 1914 and 1935, but while 1914 is the terminus post quem, the terminus ante quem of 1935 is "indicated" but not certain.
What, then, can we deduce from the fact that one of the 24 elders identifies the great crowd to John [Revelation 7:13,14] ? It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. Why is that important? Because the correct identity of the great crowd was revealed to God’s anointed servants on earth in 1935. If one of the 24 elders was used to convey that important truth, he would have had to be resurrected to heaven by 1935 at the latest. That would indicate that the first resurrection began sometime between 1914 and 1935.
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Watchtowers billion$
by lastmanstanding inserena williams was baptised as a jehovah's witness last year.
photo: pa. .
john mulligan.
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KerryKing : WTB&TS of Ireland is listed as a company, not a charity. Is that significant or meaningless?
It is irrelevant.
The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Ireland is both a company and a charity. It is a Company Limited by Guarantee, registered company number 105861 AND registered charity number 20011055.
The directors of the company are the same people as the trustees of the charity.
Its charitable status can be confirmed on the Irish Charities Regulator site here.
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The Watchtower Society Hedge Fund
by TJ Curioso inthe watchtower society hedge fundseveral weeks ago it came to my attention via the e-jehovahs-witnesses discussion board that the watchtower society had devised a new money raising scheme.
the scheme is to beg and borrow money from each individual congregation account, which they deem to be in excess of the congregation's actual expenses.
i half jokingly responded to the topic then that the watchtower has become a hedge fund.
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NotFormer, if the property was sold then the three new companies formed in the last two months would not have this property (Watch Tower House, Newcastle, Wicklow, AF63 RF61) as their registered address.
Further, the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society of Ireland, which last filed accounts in April 2024, still has this as their registered address.